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Offline erik

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Clive's codes
« on: Fri, 2005-08-12, 23:37:10 »
Let's have a go at this, Clive's known to put these little codes and references in his lyrics - what do you make of this one in Skin Game:

I prefer to face my days alone!

Kneeling down before I sleep
Never said a prayer that I believed
One day you'll understand
Why have I become this way?
Maybe it's another quirk of fate
Yielding to my DNA

Try to live on my own
Reborn once more as a whisper on the telephone
Unafraid of it all
Every thought, every dream, I will call! I will call!
Now I'm living alone
And all I am is a whisper on the telephone
Making sense of it all
Every thought, every dream, I will call! I will call!

I know my true name... It's probably the album's protagonist Noah that speaks here, but what is his "true name" then? Any thoughts or ideas?
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Re: Clive's codes
« Reply #1 on: Sat, 2005-08-13, 00:30:32 »
Actually the 'I' is a coincidence..... it's just 'know my true name'..... amny of these codes reach outside of the songs or album they may be a part of.
That's all I can say at the moment.... :) ;)
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Re: Clive's codes
« Reply #2 on: Sun, 2005-08-14, 12:45:00 »
Has anyone tried to decipher the morse code in 'Contagion' at the crossover between "On The Box" & "Tsunami"? ;D

I have... ;)
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Re: Clive's codes
« Reply #3 on: Sun, 2005-08-14, 13:06:37 »
Me too  ;D
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Re: Clive's codes
« Reply #4 on: Sun, 2005-08-14, 23:30:43 »
Quote from: keyboardistmatt on Sun, 2005-08-14, 12:45:00
Has anyone tried to decipher the morse code in 'Contagion' at the crossover between "On The Box" & "Tsunami"? ;D

I have... ;)

Er ..... am I missing something here?  I thought the answer to that was in the sleeve notes.
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Re: Clive's codes
« Reply #5 on: Mon, 2005-08-15, 00:52:12 »
Quote from: Simtere on Sun, 2005-08-14, 23:30:43
Er ..... am I missing something here?  I thought the answer to that was in the sleeve notes.

Well, my copy has the morse code printed, not what it means... wait, google is your friend....

B...e... c...a...r...e...f...u...l w...h...a...t (I think I know that line, it's a saying, right) you wish for!
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Re: Clive's codes
« Reply #6 on: Mon, 2005-08-15, 09:42:00 »
Quote from: Peter on Mon, 2005-08-15, 00:52:12
wait, google is your friend....
Yup, so it's nothing special :)

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B...e... c...a...r...e...f...u...l w...h...a...t (I think I know that line, it's a saying, right) you wish for!
For it might come true...
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Re: Clive's codes
« Reply #7 on: Fri, 2005-10-07, 00:26:27 »
Quote from: Clive on Sat, 2005-08-13, 00:30:32
Actually the 'I' is a coincidence..... it's just 'know my true name'..... amny of these codes reach outside of the songs or album they may be a part of.
That's all I can say at the moment.... :) ;)

Quote from: Clive on Tue, 2005-08-16, 16:44:54
Actually, Earthsea has been a favourite of mine for years.
It has probably influenced more than one set of lyrics.... :)

Digging into Earthsea now, now I know where the 'know my true name' derives from  ::)
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Re: Clive's codes
« Reply #8 on: Fri, 2005-10-07, 08:17:02 »
Quote from: erik on Fri, 2005-10-07, 00:26:27
Digging into Earthsea now, now I know where the 'know my true name' derives from  ::)
What is Earthsea? ???
A band?
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Re: Clive's codes
« Reply #9 on: Fri, 2005-10-07, 16:58:06 »
Quote from: PH on Fri, 2005-10-07, 08:17:02
What is Earthsea? ???
A band?

Books by Ursula K. LeGuin. Hehe, she's next on my list, after I'm finished with Tad Williams :)
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Re: Clive's codes
« Reply #10 on: Fri, 2005-11-11, 08:04:54 »
I found a couple more codes!!

Pepper's Ghost
Bedlam Fayre

Over there an angry god
Violent brow and negligence
Making waves that can't be stopped
Unafraid of consequence

Chosen faith's a lottery
Heaven sent down forgeries
Miracles and travesties
Irreligion sows that seed

Staring through the Judas Hole
See what I can see?
Every covenant of souls
Drum roll payments paid to me..

Much missed. Clive missed something? ;D


Pepper's Ghost
Smoke & Mirrors

Tell me who you are
To treat me like a fool, can't you be
Honest from the start
Explain these tainted rules

Calm me down
A siren's crown
Graceful sounds
Ease me round

The Cage, a tribute to the fanclub! Great!!


Pepper's Ghost
The Eyes Of Lara Moon

It's hard to fight
When you're strugling for breath
And it's hard to smile
Noble in the face of death
There's no defence
To quell a greater force of will
One desperate flight
But needlessly their blood is spilled

Endure the bleakest days
Light the visions crowding in
Identify the blame
Expose the guilty and the sinners
Vocation holds us here
Even to the end of days
There's no inaction
That will stem the tide of fear

I want to believe. Clive's personal struggling?


Hmm... maybe Clive missed something in life, so he wants to believe. He's seeking for something to believe in?

Please Clive, could you help us out? ???



I like these codes, and I'm sure there must be some more...
I thought I read something in The Shattered Room too... something like 'I am' and then something with SAST... so... well...
'I am sassy'? :P ::)
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Re: Clive's codes
« Reply #11 on: Fri, 2005-11-11, 09:15:14 »
Each message has it's own meaning... they aren't connected particularly.
You need to go back a line or two for the 'much missed'... that should help...;)
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Re: Clive's codes
« Reply #12 on: Fri, 2005-11-11, 10:39:59 »
Heh, you're missing Chekov? Like Pavel Chekov? You Trekkie...
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Re: Clive's codes
« Reply #13 on: Fri, 2005-11-11, 11:04:52 »
Chekov.... a cool cat
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Re: Clive's codes
« Reply #14 on: Fri, 2005-11-25, 13:31:28 »
The idea of such messages is... enrapturing, for want of a better word. But I have to ask: Have you felt that the wish for such a code, which of course sets the preset to what letter each line can start with, may come in conflict with the best possible lyrics / ideas you could put down on paper? You get my meaning? Have you tried to put a code in, but given it up, 'cause the lyrics that came to you and felt like the right thing just couldn't be adjusted to the required first letter?
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Re: Clive's codes
« Reply #15 on: Thu, 2005-12-01, 15:47:46 »
Has Anyone really looked at the cover of Peppers Ghost it has one of them magic eye thingies. its a tough one but you can just make out a picture of clive i'm not gonna say what he's doing but i'm sure its banned in most U.S. states!
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Re: Clive's codes
« Reply #16 on: Thu, 2005-12-01, 16:14:26 »
Quote from: Smegal on Thu, 2005-12-01, 15:47:46
Has Anyone really looked at the cover of Peppers Ghost it has one of them magic eye thingies. its a tough one but you can just make out a picture of clive i'm not gonna say what he's doing but i'm sure its banned in most U.S. states!


I'm not sure where you are referring to.

Magic eye thingies: could be either:
- Clive's eyes
- Ian's eyes

So? What's wrong with it?

What Clive is doing:

1. You're reffering to exorsism?
2. Or the way he holds his hand like that? ("Hail Hitler" or something?? ??? )

1. It is just a cover and it's a story which is said to be in the Victorian Age.
2. That's really far-fetched (or how ever you spell it like that)

Besides, we're not in the US states.
There are other countries as well, you know.
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Re: Clive's codes
« Reply #17 on: Thu, 2005-12-01, 17:02:30 »
I think Smegal mean "a trick of the eye" thingy. Like a picture where you see a man, and when you turn it around you see a woman. Or that picture where you can see an ugly old lady or a young beautiful lady, just by looking at it differently. (I can't find the picture >:()
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Re: Clive's codes
« Reply #18 on: Thu, 2005-12-01, 17:08:17 »


There it is :)
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Re: Clive's codes
« Reply #19 on: Thu, 2005-12-01, 21:21:39 »
Quote from: Appelmoes?? on Thu, 2005-12-01, 17:02:30
think SMegal mean "a trick of the eye" thingy. Like a picture where you see a man, and when you turn it around you see a woman. Or that picture where you can see an ugly old lady or a young beautiful lady, just by looking at it differently. (I can't find the picture >:()
Ah yes, ok. I understand now.
And I know that picture btw.

Still haven't found any "eye tricks" on Pepper's Ghost yet.

Give us some clues!
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Re: Clive's codes
« Reply #20 on: Thu, 2005-12-01, 23:48:45 »
You have to cross your eyes.


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Re: Clive's codes
« Reply #21 on: Thu, 2005-12-01, 23:57:48 »
Quote from: Saryna on Thu, 2005-12-01, 23:48:45
You have to cross your eyes.
Now I see two cd's...
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Re: Clive's codes
« Reply #22 on: Fri, 2005-12-02, 00:09:47 »

 :D
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Re: Clive's codes
« Reply #23 on: Fri, 2005-12-02, 00:13:10 »
Still doen't work :P
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Re: Clive's codes
« Reply #24 on: Fri, 2005-12-02, 00:19:41 »
Fake it till you make it.


Aw I'm just a peasant.  Don't listen to me.

Excuse me.  I have to get back to walking the griffen. He keeps loseing his hair.  Needs more exercise.
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