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Nicky007

#10525
Quote from: Bupie on Fri, 2009-03-20, 11:49:54
I still see myself picking it on the shelf of the store (basing my choice upon the nice art cover and a review in the local newspaper). And Duchess is a great song with moving lyrics, Nick (but maybe not in your sphere of interest)

There was an extended period in the early eighties when Duke was the only music that existed for me  *horns*

It's one of the ten albums that have meant most to me - and don't ask more  ;)

So I understand you, Bupsie, and Paxi  :)

So now we're real friends, aint we ?  (for a while)  ;D


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I won't enter the Ten/Asia debate but you already know my thoughts about it ...  ;D

There is definutly a progression, Bups: This time you listed Ten before Asia  *horns*

Nicky.
So you've come of age
And so you want to meet God
Sure you can
He's right here next to me

Steve Jones

#10526
Quote from: Bupie on Fri, 2009-03-20, 11:49:54
The first album (vinyl) I ever bought. I still see myself picking it on the shelf of the store (basing my choice upon the nice art cover and a review in the local newspaper). And Duchess is a great song with moving lyrics

As I'm fairly ancient, obviously Duke was nowhere near the first album I bought.  I do, however, distinctly remember buying it due to a combination of unusual circumstances.

1) The Duke tour saw Genesis go back to playing smaller venues as a one-off, with obvious effect on ticket demand.  We slept overnight in the queue outside Birmingham Odeon (as, it seemed, did half the world) and were rewarded with tickets for both nights.  Hurrah!

2) The album was released when I was in Amsterdam for two weeks, on a field trip as part of the course I was doing.  Another student and myself, upon seeing it in a store window, just had to go and buy a copy each even though we wouldn't be able to play it until we got back to England a week later.  We just needed to hold and gaze upon it. ;D

3) Some git then scratched my copy one night back at the hotel we were staying in.   >:(

4) The concerts were unbelievable.  I'd not really taken to 'And Then There Were Three' at the time and was starting to think they were over the hill.  But live the material was awesome.  For me, Genesis were never better than this, with a great balance between older and newer stuff on stage.  The next tour I saw them on (Abacab and back to big venues) I wasn't very impressed at all.

NP: The Who - Meaty Beaty Big and Bouncy.
Regards, Steve Jones

"Then I'll know my bet will win, when the saints go marching in"

Steve Jones

The Reasoning - Awakening. *horns*
Regards, Steve Jones

"Then I'll know my bet will win, when the saints go marching in"

Steve Jones

The Reasoning - Dark Angel.
Regards, Steve Jones

"Then I'll know my bet will win, when the saints go marching in"

Nicky007

NP  Queensrÿche:  I Will Remember  (MTV Unplugged, boners track on Hear In The Now Frontier, on repeat)

mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm  :)

I think a lotta you guys don't know how good Q are  ;)

Nicky.
So you've come of age
And so you want to meet God
Sure you can
He's right here next to me

Nicky007

#10530
Quote from: Steve Jones on Fri, 2009-03-20, 13:31:10
As I'm fairly ancient, obviously Duke was nowhere near the first album I bought.

It might sound odd to the young ones here, but when I was a kid back in the 1860's - no wait, it must have been the 1960's - we bought singles (small vinyl records rotated faster than the albums). It was a big occasion when one of us came with a new single. So that's how I got to know the first Beatles, Stones, Fabulous Four, and Monkeys songs  :)

Jonesy, was it the same in your childhood ? - or are you just that younger ?


Quote from: Steve Jones on Fri, 2009-03-20, 13:31:10
NP: The Who - Meaty Beaty Big and Bouncy.

I'v often wondered, what's it like ?

Nicky.
So you've come of age
And so you want to meet God
Sure you can
He's right here next to me

PH

NP: Sylvan - Posthumous Silence
3. In Chains

A very good song! 8)

Steve Jones

Quote from: Nicky007 on Fri, 2009-03-20, 17:10:40
I'v often wondered, what's it like ?

Well it's a best of from the earlier Who period.  So if you like a lot of the famous tunes such as 'I Can See For Miles' and 'My Generation' then it's an excellent compilation.
Regards, Steve Jones

"Then I'll know my bet will win, when the saints go marching in"

Steve Jones

Quote from: Nicky007 on Fri, 2009-03-20, 17:10:40
It might sound odd to the young ones here, but when I was a kid back in the 1860's - no wait, it must have been the 1960's - we bought singles (small vinyl records rotated faster than the albums). It was a big occasion when one of us came with a new single. So that's how I got to know the first Beatles, Stones, Fabulous Four, and Monkeys songs  :)

Jonesy, was it the same in your childhood ? - or are you just that younger ?

Yes, I started off buying singles because they were cheap enough to be attainable with my limited pocket money and were what you'd heard in the charts anyway.  This was in the 'Glam Rock' era so I was picking up things by T.Rex, Slade, Bowie, Alice Cooper, Quo, Roxy Music and even (cough!) Gary Glitter.  However, it didn't take long before increased pocket money meant albums could be had if I saved awhile.  Albums were better value than singles once you'd scraped the cash together, plus I'd started getting into the kind of music where you didn't usually get singles.  Purple, Zepp, etc.

I probably only had 40 odd singles before I gave up buying them.


NP: Judas Priest - Ram it Down.
Regards, Steve Jones

"Then I'll know my bet will win, when the saints go marching in"

Bupie

Yes, I too began my music-buyer career with singles, that's why I mentioned first album about Duke.

In France, the singles were called 45 tours while the LP's were called 33 tours ... but don't ask me why  ???  And I don't remember my first single (maybe M's Pop Music but I wouldn't swear and it's nothing to be proud of).

Great story by the way, Steve  ;)

Steve Jones

Quote from: Bupie on Fri, 2009-03-20, 18:41:42
And I don't remember my first single (maybe M's Pop Music but I wouldn't swear and it's nothing to be proud of).

Hmm, the first single I ever bought was T. Rex ' Metal Guru', closely followed by Slade's 'Take Me Bak Ome'.  The first proper album I bought was Slade's mighty 'Slayed' although there was a purchase before this that doesn't really count as a proper album.  It was a T. Rex compilation called 'Ride A White Swan' on the cheapy 'Music For Pleasure' label.  Despite being labelled as T. Rex there was only one T. Rex track on it (Ride A White Swan itself) and the rest were by the earlier Tyrannosaurus Rex.  I still enjoyed it, but it wasn't quite what I was expecting.


Quote from: Bupie on Fri, 2009-03-20, 18:41:42
Great story by the way, Steve  ;)

Thank you, kind sir.  I've had one of those days where I hadn't much to do, so fancied a bit of typing.  I've got setlists from the Genesis gigs somewhere, must dig them out...


NP: Genesis - Duke *horns*
Regards, Steve Jones

"Then I'll know my bet will win, when the saints go marching in"

Teunis

Toto - The Seventh One

np: Blind Ego - Numb  *horns*
'I will surrender my heart to the sky
Oh, our love doesn't end here, it lives forever on the wings of time'
-------------------------------------------------------
Toto - Wings of time (Kingdom of Desire)

Manatee

NP: Buffalo Tom - Big Red Letter Day
"What is that sound?  It's confusing, and boy is it loud!"

Manatee

Quote from: Bupie on Fri, 2009-03-20, 18:41:42
Yes, I too began my music-buyer career with singles, that's why I mentioned first album about Duke.

I had a handful of singles as well.  I believe my first one was the very manly "Rainy Days and Mondays" by the Carpenters.  The first LP I'll admit to buying was Out of the Blue by ELO.
"What is that sound?  It's confusing, and boy is it loud!"

PH

I have only four singles:
Ryo Okumoto's "Winners Of The Heart", Spock's Beard's "Skin" and "All On A Sunday" and Ty Tabor's "I Do".

I always get free singles when I buy something through the InsideOut website.
I don't really listen to them (at least not very often...), but they're certainly not bad!

Quote from: Bupie on Fri, 2009-03-20, 18:41:42
In France, the singles were called 45 tours while the LP's were called 33 tours ... but don't ask me why  ???

Isn't it just simply because an LP has to be played making 33 rounds per minute, and singles being smaller, have to spin faster (45 rpm)...?

Manatee

Quote from: Nicky007 on Thu, 2009-03-19, 23:54:23
Hey guys, are Tom and I the only roomies who are interested in lyrics (apart from Arena and DT)  :o

Of course I'm interested in lyrics.  Aren't we all?  The kind I usually like best are the ones that take several listens to fully sink in and generally leave some of the interpretation up to the listener.  All things being equal, I much prefer a song that leaves me pondering about the meaning to one that hits me over the head with its message.  There are, of course, exceptions, especially if they're funny.   ;)
"What is that sound?  It's confusing, and boy is it loud!"

PH

I'm listening to Amorphis - "The White Swan" (through MySpace)

Sounds very good! :)

Steve Jones

Genesis - Selling England by the Pound *horns*
Regards, Steve Jones

"Then I'll know my bet will win, when the saints go marching in"

Manatee

In Tenebris - Live @ Reverence
"What is that sound?  It's confusing, and boy is it loud!"

PH

Ty Tabor - I Do (single)

Well, it's not bad. A bit like The Jelly Jam in some places, not surprised of course.

Next:
The Jelly Jam ;D

Nicky007

#10545
Quote from: Manatee on Fri, 2009-03-20, 19:58:37
Of course I'm interested in lyrics.  Aren't we all?

I'm not sure. Tom and I are the only ones who comment on lyrics (again apart from Arena and DT)  ???

But I'm happy that you are, Greenie  :)

The reason I thought in that direction is that lyrics are very upfront on the albums of Ten and Caamora. They're not really albums for moshpit types  ;)


Quote from: PH on Fri, 2009-03-20, 19:50:05
Isn't it just simply because an LP has to be played making 33 rounds per minute, and singles being smaller, have to spin faster (45 rpm)...?

I think Bupie was kiddin, Paxi, cause everybody at that time was fiddlin with the rpm knob  ;)

In fact there were even some old people at that time who still had the very old records that played at 70-somethin rpm, and all gramophones had that option. Good old days, man !


Quote from: PH on Fri, 2009-03-20, 19:50:05
I always get free singles when I buy something through the InsideOut website.

But hardly vinyl ?


Quote from: Steve Jones on Fri, 2009-03-20, 18:52:49
... it wasn't quite what I was expecting.

Yeah, tell me about it  ;D

Those were the days before there was any internet, and we didnt wanna spend our pennies on rock magazines, and iac we didnt have the patience to work things out systematically  :D

Nicky.
So you've come of age
And so you want to meet God
Sure you can
He's right here next to me

PH

Quote from: Nicky007 on Fri, 2009-03-20, 21:24:20
I'm not sure. Tom and I are the only ones who comment on lyrics (again apart from Arena and DT)  ???

But I'm happy that you are, Greenie :)

I really like the lyrics (when they're good enough). And I comment on them often enough to be listed there Nicky! >:( :D ;)

Quote from: Nicky007 on Fri, 2009-03-20, 21:24:20
I think Bupie was kiddin, Paxi, cause everybody at that time was fiddlin with the rpm knob  ;)

You would think so. ;D

Quote from: Nicky007 on Fri, 2009-03-20, 21:24:20
In fact there were even some old people at that time who still had the very old records that played at 70-somethin rpm, and all gramophones had that option. Good old days, man !

Yeah, we had one like that some time ago. 'twas quite fun. I remember moving them with a finger to create a Bee Gees effect.


Quote from: Nicky007 on Fri, 2009-03-20, 21:24:20
But hardly vinyl ?

Should it be?


NP:
The Jelly Jam - The Jelly Jam
5. Feeling

I know I've said different, but I'm learning to like this album a fair bit.
It's not average pop rock like I used to say.



-Paco

Manatee

Quote from: Nicky007 on Fri, 2009-03-20, 21:24:20
I'm not sure. Tom and I are the only ones who comment on lyrics (again apart from Arena and DT)  ???

But I'm happy that you are, Greenie  :)

Occasionally I like to talk about an interesting lyric, but with the less obvious ones, I think I often prefer not to know how other people (or even the authors) are interpreting them.  It tends to be a bit deflating if a song that had some personal significance to me turns out to mean something other than what I thought.  More generally, I suspect that proggies are more into lyrics than the great unwashed out there since (I like to think) we're a more cerebral lot than the average.
"What is that sound?  It's confusing, and boy is it loud!"

Nicky007

#10548
Quote from: PH on Fri, 2009-03-20, 21:40:47
I really like the lyrics (when they're good enough). And I comment on them often enough to be listed there Nicky! >:( :D ;)

Hey, it's real long since you actually did, in fact so long ago that I can't even recall  ???

But great that you're also attentive to lyrics, Paxi  8)


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Should it be?

It's just that the rest of the discussion was about vinyl singles, Paxi ... but ok, nobody told me that one had to be logical in the Room  ;D


Quote from: PH on Fri, 2009-03-20, 21:40:47
I remember moving them with a finger to create a Bee Gees effect.

Yeah, you could make American presidents sound like Donald Duck. It was great  *horns*

Nicky.
So you've come of age
And so you want to meet God
Sure you can
He's right here next to me

Manatee

NP: IQ - Dark Matter - 1. Sacred Sound

Not sure if I'll sit through the whole album just now as I'm beginning to think about food, and that requires a trip to the market.  If I buy any prawns, I'll be sure to make sure they're cooked.
"What is that sound?  It's confusing, and boy is it loud!"