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[Manatee]

What's that song supposed to be ?  Can't think of any Q-song that sounds like Stairway.
And I never before heard the "one-hit-band" argument applied to Q. Doesnt make any sense at all 

Actually, I thought of them more as a no-hit band, although I did like Jet City Woman as a regular hard rock song.

The song I was referring to is Silent Lucidity.  Admittedly, it probably sounds more like Floyd than Zep, but bear in mind this was a long long time ago, and at that point Strairway to Heaven was my poster child for overplayed songs that took themselves too seriously.  I recently heard it on the radio for the first time in years and didn't find it so bad at all, so don't feel the need to have me drawn and quartered just yet.   

And you bastards are going to force me to go out and buy Guinness yet again it seems.   


NP: Concrete Blonde - Free

Not sure I'll get through the whole album, but God Is a Bullet needs to played, probably twice.

I really did like that Killing Joke album.  I guess I wasn't totally out of my head when I bought it.  It will probably get played again before Ass Ponys or Dread Zeppelin.   

Alice Cooper - Hey Stoopid.
Possibly the best of his 'post-classic' period to my ears.  Includes 'Feed My Frankenstein' as featured in Wayne's World

I don't own it, but I reeeeallly like his relatively recent (in Alice years -- it's still several years old) song 'Poison'.

[Steve Jones]

I really did like that Killing Joke album.  I guess I wasn't totally out of my head when I bought it.

Well, if Metallica cover them then they can't be all bad!

I don't own it, but I reeeeallly like his relatively recent (in Alice years -- it's still several years old) song 'Poison'.

Hmm, forgot about that one.  It is good...

Edit: It's on 'Trash' which is from 1989 - 20 Alice years old!!

[Nicky007]

... I did like Jet City Woman as a regular hard rock song.

I can't even recall that song 

The song I was referring to is Silent Lucidity.

Weird, I know it's a hit with many, but in my mind it's rather bland; the only thing that makes it special is Geoff's singing ... but he seems to sing on all Queensrÿche songs 

No, the real mindblowers are Roads To Madness, Infrared, London, I Will Remember, just to mention some of their first great songs 

Nicky.

[Manatee]

I can't even recall that song 

Further research reveals that Jet City Woman is on Empire, which oddly enough is the same album containing Silent Lucidity and Della "Marmite" Brown.

[Nicky007]

Further research reveals that Jet City Woman is on Empire ...

OK, but it doesnt seem to have been memorable to me. There are Q-songs that I like a lot more than others. However, with repeated album listening, many of the others catch my attention 

No doubt in my mind, we're talkin about a band whose genius is comparable to Beatles, Floyd, DT, Guinness and Marmite 

Nicky.

[Manatee]

OK, but it doesnt seem to have been memorable to me.

As I said before, I recall it as being more of a straight rock song, so it may have been invisible to your prog radar.

No doubt in my mind, we're talkin about a band whose genius is comparable to Beatles, Floyd, DT, Guinness and Marmite 

Well that's certainly a mixed bag in my estimation: Some  , some  , and some 

NP: nothing, but I think I'll see what Miss Pandora has to say about Q.  After that, I'll go get that Guinness that you mentioned in case it needs help.

[Manatee]

OK, I know nobody's awake over there, but I just had to share this:

I started a Pandora station for Queensrÿche.  It started with Anybody Listening from Empire.  The first song it picked as having similar characteristics was ... Round and Round by Ratt.      For those who are wondering what I'm blathering about,  Queensrÿche and Ratt (and in particular that song) were hot topics of conversation today, although nobody thought to connect them.*

* No pandas were harmed in the creation of this post.

[Manatee]

Captain's Log: Stardate Somethingorother -

The Great Queensrÿche Experiment continues...  Interestingly, Pandora doesn't seem to associate Q with prog metal bands at all.  Other than a couple of their own songs, everything this Pandora station has come up with has been metal ordinaire (although some good choices from that category): Ratt, Metallica, Van Halen (twice), Dio, Def Leppard, Iron Maiden, and Ozzy.

I'm also conducting the Great Stout Experiment (which is why I'm being foolish enough to post at this hour).  In the interest of science, I bought 4-packs of draught cans of both Guinness and Murphy's (and no, I don't intend to consume all of them tonight).  After careful consideration, our panel of judges (all of whom happen to be me) have reached the following determination:  Guinness does indeed kick the arse of Murphy's, however, as the esteemed Mr. Jones indicated, Murphy's ain't half bad and will do in a pinch.

[The Butterfly Man]

Tom, you're beginning one of the most exciting adventures in your prog life 

NP: Queensrÿche - Empire

It doesn't do much for me to be honest. Maybe I just need more listens or this album isn't good as a startingpoint but we'll see. Maybe I'll play O:M 1 (although I already like that one) next. But the songs I heard on their MySpace yesterday sound great, especially the American Soldier-tracks!

Tom

[The Butterfly Man]

Other than a couple of their own songs, everything this Pandora station has come up with has been metal ordinaire (although some good choices from that category): Ratt, Metallica, Van Halen (twice), Dio, Def Leppard, Iron Maiden, and Ozzy.

You're calling Metallica 'metal ordinaire'.... Have you been drinking again?

Nah maybe you're right, but I happen to really like Metallica (well, apart from St. Anger) so I don't really mind how you call them...which means this post is rather unnecessary...

Tom

[Manatee]

NP: Queensrÿche - Empire

It doesn't do much for me to be honest. Maybe I just need more listens or this album isn't good as a startingpoint but we'll see. Maybe I'll play O:M 1 (although I already like that one) next. But the songs I heard on their MySpace yesterday sound great, especially the American Soldier-tracks!

Hi Tom.  This night watchman gig was getting lonely.

As it happens, Pandora just played Eyes of a Stranger from O:M 1, and I think that's the first one of theirs that makes me think there may be something in there worth digging for.  

[Manatee]

You're calling Metallica 'metal ordinaire'.... Have you been drinking again?

Nah maybe you're right, but I happen to really like Metallica (well, apart from St. Anger) so I don't really mind how you call them...which means this post is rather unnecessary...

I didn't mean it in a negative way.  I just meant non-prog metal, some of which I happen to like (including Metallica).  On the other hand, as I said earlier, I'm still not really sure what constitutes "prog metal."   Apparently Dream Theater is by acclimation, and I think Devin Townsend must be (whatever he is, he's great  ), but other than that, it's kind of murky in my mind.  I guess the symphonic metal bands are proggy, and I do like many of those.  Does anyone have a working definition of prog metal they'd care to suggest?

Edit: Besides, I came right out and said I was drinking.   

[Steve Jones]

Guinness does indeed kick the arse of Murphy's, however, as the esteemed Mr. Jones indicated, Murphy's ain't half bad and will do in a pinch.

Yes indeed.  Sometimes when the local supermarket is out of Guniness, Murphys is procured here.  A more than pleasant alternative, but put the two side by side on a shelf and I'll pick Guinness.

Guinness rocks

[The Butterfly Man]

Hi Tom.  This night watchman gig was getting lonely.

Thanks for watching over our 'home' when we were fast asleep!

I didn't mean it in a negative way.  I just meant non-prog metal, some of which I happen to like (including Metallica).  On the other hand, as I said earlier, I'm still not really sure what constitutes "prog metal."   Apparently Dream Theater is by acclimation, and I think Devin Townsend must be (whatever he is, he's great  ), but other than that, it's kind of murky in my mind.  I guess the symphonic metal bands are proggy, and I do like many of those.  Does anyone have a working definition of prog metal they'd care to suggest?

I was just joking, I know you like Metallica. But I really don't care what the genre they're in is called. If I like the music it's okay with me. It happens that my favourite music is often described with the term prog-metal, so when I people ask me what my favourite music is I'll mention prog-metal. But it might as wel be called <insert any genre>, as long as I like it, it's fine.

I hate it when people have these (narrow-minded) preconceived ideas and say things like "This is not <insert any genre again> so it's crap" (or something alike). Luckily that doesn't happen here, otherwise I wouldn't be posting here anymore. Did I mention I hate that attitude?

Oh and I don't really have a definition of the term prog-metal, you better ask Nicky!

Tom

[Steve Jones]

I just meant non-prog metal, some of which I happen to like (including Metallica).  On the other hand, as I said earlier, I'm still not really sure what constitutes "prog metal."

Yeah, I'm not much into definitions and arguing over semantics.  Back in the day I didn't have Q labelled as prog-metal, but these days I'm used to folk referring to them as prog and I guess I'll go with the flow without too much argument.  They're not as prog as DT, but there's bits of prog there and it comes down to where you draw the line.

But I'd instinctively lump them in with the bands you say Pandora picks, even if Ratt have no more prog about them than Celine Dion!

[Manatee]

But I really don't care what the genre they're in is called. If I like the music it's okay with me. It happens that my favourite music is often described with the term prog-metal, so when I people ask me what my favourite music is I'll mention prog-metal. But it might as wel be called <insert any genre>, as long as I like it, it's fine.

I hate it when people have these (narrow-minded) preconceived ideas to say things like "This is not <insert any genre again> so it's crap" (or something alike). Luckily that doesn't happen here, otherwise I wouldn't be posting here anymore. Did I mention I hate that attitude?

I agree completely.  A lot of the best bands/musicians are the ones who aren't afraid to go outside of a given 'category' if the inspiration takes them that way.  I'm just honestly curious as to what people mean by prog metal because I often can't tell the difference.

Actually, this Pandora station is playing some really good stuff, even though only a few of them have actually been Q so far.  Right now it's on Rainbow in the Dark, which is probably the best Dio song I've heard.

[Steve Jones]

This night watchman gig was getting lonely.

So, what time is it over there at the moment?

[PH]

"This is not <insert any genre again> so it's crap"

Prog-metal is not prog, so it's crap!

(A view I often encounter on the ProgArchives forums.)

[Manatee]

So, what time is it over there at the moment?

It's now 3:15 AM.  If you hadn't guessed already, I keep rather odd hours.  Until a little while ago, I was actually doing what passes for 'work' for me right now.

NP: Still on the Pandora Q station.  I'm not sure I'm getting much of a sample of Q, but this station has turned out to be really fun.  It just played another hair favorite of mine: Cinderella - Nobody's Fool.

[Manatee]

Prog-metal is not prog, so it's crap!

(A view I often encounter on the ProgArchives forums.)

I'm not really a big forum kind of guy.  I only ventured here because you folks seemed unusually civil.  There's actually a forum I'm *supposed* to post on that I avoid because it's so combative.

[PH]

I'm not really a big forum kind of guy.  I only ventured here because you folks seemed unusually civil.  There's actually a forum I'm *supposed* to post on that I avoid because it's so combative.

Yeah, that's true.
I am a member of the ProgArchives forum, but I never post there cause of the above mentioned views.
There are a bit too much prog snobs there.

[Steve Jones]

It's now 3:15 AM.  If you hadn't guessed already, I keep rather odd hours.

I had wondered.  I assumed you were five hours behind over there but couldn't reconcile it with your online time.

I'm pretty good with time zones as I was dealing with military stuff involving both Iraq, Afghanistan and the US.  Four different time zones.  I was much amused (and I can talk about this if I keep it suitably vague!) by a minor cock-up when a high-ranking officer out in one of the deserts forgot about the changing of the clocks for British Summertime and thus screwed something up quite visibly.  Nothing life-threatening, fortunately.

[Steve Jones]

I'm not really a big forum kind of guy.  I only ventured here because you folks seemed unusually civil.  There's actually a forum I'm *supposed* to post on that I avoid because it's so combative.

Something I've remarked upon in the past.  Perhaps because of the small number of active members here there's a definite absence of the professional squabbling that defines many music forums.  I love music, why should I come online to spread hate?  It doesn't make sense.  Bands I'm not too keen on are merely bands I'm not too keen on - not the rallying cry for a jihad.  Mind you, this equanimity doesn't extend to rap and suchlike

The only thing missing from this forum is chat about Arena!  No doubt that will change big-style when a new album springs forth

[Steve Jones]

The Babys - Isn't it Time.

A compilation I bought in the HMV sale around a decade ago because a) it was dirt cheap and b) I like John Waite.  Unfortunately The Babys are still a 'band I'm not too keen on' after the recent ripping of this one.  Funnily enough a mate of mine years ago was mad about the band - perhaps we should have fought?

[Manatee]

Something I've remarked upon in the past.  Perhaps because of the small number of active members here there's a definite absence of the professional squabbling that defines many music forums.  I love music, why should I come online to spread hate?  It doesn't make sense.  Bands I'm not too keen on are merely bands I'm not too keen on - not the rallying cry for a jihad.  Mind you, this equanimity doesn't extend to rap and suchlike

The only thing missing from this forum is chat about Arena!  No doubt that will change big-style when a new album springs forth

Ditto, now and then I feel guilty for not mentioning Arena more on the Arena forum, but since they're largely on other projects themselves, they probably don't mind, as long as we'll buy their (please let it come this year) new album, which we will.

I agree with you about rap, with a couple of exceptions, particularly the Beastie Boys, and a lot of that has to do with them not taking themselves the least bit seriously.  I can't hate anyone who obviously considers himself an object of humor.

I'm tempted to start a new topic about Radio, but that seems like a Big Step.  Am I worthy?

P.S. - still on this Pandora station.  I think it's forgotten about Q entirely, but it's playing lots of Def Leppard and Scorpions, and how can you not have fun with those?