Yes

[Nicky007]

Yeah, it all looks exciting on a blue background 

I like The Ladder a lot too, have listened loads to it 

- Nicky

[Bupie]

Maybe that could speak to some of you 

http://www.dprp.net/reviews/201379.php

http://www.dprp.net/reviews/201380.php

I find it really nice that they managed to get the point of view and analysis of some great prog musicians 

[keyboardistmatt]

I like The Ladder a lot too, have listened loads to it 

- Nicky

I don't hear people say that too often. I think The Ladder is a fantastic album.

[Nicky007]

I think The Ladder is a fantastic album.

This time ya got it right, Matt 

Bit'o hit and miss with you

- Nicky

[keyboardistmatt]

This time ya got it right, Matt 

Bit'o hit and miss with you

- Nicky

I am frequently right.

[Nicky007]

I am frequently right.

Lately it was 50/50

- Nicky

[keyboardistmatt]

Lately it was 50/50

- Nicky

I'd say more 99/1...

[Nicky007]

I'd say more 99/1...

Well then you haven't posted the good 98, and the one was so bad that it counts for 50

- Nicky

[keyboardistmatt]

Well then you haven't posted the good 98, and the one was so bad that it counts for 50

- Nicky

Well... wait 'till you see my thoughts on Dylan...!

[PH]

Back to Yes then.

In search for "Talk" I stumbled across this:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Essentially_Yes

Is this compilation box set a good idea?

It has:
- "Talk"
- "Open Your Eyes"
- "The Ladder"
- "Magnification"
- "Live At Montreux"


I can get it for a reasonable price. Or should I get the individual versions? (Which will be a bit more expensive)

[Nicky007]

Paxi, I like to get one album at a time, and then dwell on it for a while ....

I try to find the best one re where I am right now, taking tips, reading reviews etc.

If one gets too much at a time, then one mixes everything together.

In prog, it's good to maintain clear lines

Get Talk first, then Ladder, then Live at Montreux

Magnification never really gripped me, Open Your Eyes not at all.

Yes are more a project than a group. A lot of talented people have contributed, sometimes there was genius and good chemistry, other times not so much.

- Nicky

[PH]

Paxi, I like to get one album at a time, and then dwell on it for a while ....

I try to find the best one re where I am right now, taking tips, reading reviews etc.

If one gets too much at a time, then one mixes everything together.

In prog, it's good to maintain clear lines

Normally I would agree, but I've bought more albums together before and can still listen to one album at a time. I've never mixed things together before. But I do understand your comment.

The problem is, to me this is not really the essential Yes period (the name of the box set is very funny). I've listened to "Talk" a lot, thanks to YouTube and I like it a lot, but I wouldn't say it's essential Yes. The essence of Yes, for me, is in their classic era (1971-1977).

So this box set seems like a good deal to me. I get these four studio albums together for less money than I have to pay for one of them alone.
I really want "Talk" and "The Ladder", but when I buy these seperately, I pay almost thirty euros, while I can get this box for less than 15 euros and I get the other albums with it.

[Nicky007]

Paxi, as I said earlier, Yes is a project that progresses according to who is involved and how much is put into it. Yes 2014 is just as much Yes as Yes 1969.

So it's a question of getting the albums (first) that turn one on in some way or other.

To me, Talk, The Ladder, and Fly from Here are essential Yes albums.

I'v stopped being manic about getting the entire catalogs of my pantheon groups. Therefore I'v omitted Open Your Eyes, as I know that I would only play it rarely. Fortunately Ms 007 has it. So together we have the entire Yes studio catalog.

- Nicky

[Iggy]

Normally I would agree, but I've bought more albums together before and can still listen to one album at a time. I've never mixed things together before. But I do understand your comment.

The problem is, to me this is not really the essential Yes period (the name of the box set is very funny). I've listened to "Talk" a lot, thanks to YouTube and I like it a lot, but I wouldn't say it's essential Yes. The essence of Yes, for me, is in their classic era (1971-1977).

So this box set seems like a good deal to me. I get these four studio albums together for less money than I have to pay for one of them alone.
I really want "Talk" and "The Ladder", but when I buy these seperately, I pay almost thirty euros, while I can get this box for less than 15 euros and I get the other albums with it.

I would say it depends on how much money you have. You can always buy them separately later. The only dodgy CD is Open your eyes in that set. Magnification has its moments imo.

[Nicky007]

Magnification has its moments imo.

Thanx for the tip, Iggy. I actually haven't heard it that much. I'll soon revisit ....

- Nicky

[erik]

Yeah Nicky, you should try again with Magnification, it's better than The Ladder imho (Ladder is a bit hit and miss) and an album with orchestra that works really well. Especially Dreamtime, In The Presence Of and Spirit Of Survival stand out.

@Paco: you can't go wrong with buying that set, good value for money (debates about the title of the set aside). Open Your Eyes you won't play often (worst Yes album ever by far), but the rest you'll want. Talk was my first real encounter with Yes (got it from the local library), still love it. I have the Montreux dvd which is great, especially Awaken, my alltime Yes favourite. If the Keystudio album were included (Mind Drive!!) it would have been even better, but you can't have everything

[Nicky007]

Yeah Nicky, you should try again with Magnification

Yes, I will, Erik ...

it's better than The Ladder imho (Ladder is a bit hit and miss)

Now are you sure that you have listened properly to this one, Erik ? It's one of my fave Yes albums, I love every piece on it. There was a period some ten years ago when I was listening to it all day long

Open Your Eyes you won't play often (worst Yes album ever by far)

Yes, I couldn't believe my ears when I heard it first, that a band with such high standards could release something that bland

The problem is, to me this is not really the essential Yes period (the name of the box set is very funny).

Ha, I hadn't even looked at the box title. You're gonna have yourself a nice little conflict there, Paxi

Typical commercialism

I mean, if you like a band, why not get the stuff that the band originally put out ?

- Nicky

[erik]

Now are you sure that you have listened properly to this one, Erik ? It's one of my fave Yes albums, I love every piece on it. [...]i

I've played it quite a lot and it's one of the better Yes albums of their later career, especially like the opening track Homeworld and Squire's bass on The Messenger. Lots to enjoy throughout, my gripe is Lightning Strikes (just like Teakbois on the AWBH album, Yes shouldn't go there imho), Can I? (superfluous/filler) and To Be Alive (Hep Yadda), that break the flow of the other very enjoyable tracks. The good outweighs the bad by far, but a bit uneven as a whole I think. Open Your Eyes is bland throughout, except perhaps the first track New State Of Mind that I do like.

[PH]

You can always buy them separately later.

This is of course true and made me order the box set. Thanks for your views Iggy, Nicky and Erik.
I got it yesterday.
At this very moment I am enjoying "The Ladder". What a refreshing album!

[Nicky007]

Man, am I pissed off: Yes are touring Europe this Summer, they'r playing in Århus and Oslo, but not in Cop or Malmö. How can they play in Århus and not in Cop

I would very much like to hear them, even tho Jon (I), Rick, and Trevor aint along any longer.

I think I know someone who's gonna see'm in London, May 8

And maybe someone in Tilburg, May 22

Remarkable that they have another Jon doing the vocals

I saw that Jon II sings in Glass Hammer.

- Nicky

[PH]

Man, am I pissed off: Yes are touring Europe this Summer, they'r playing in Århus and Oslo, but not in Cop or Malmö. How can they play in Århus and not in Cop

I would very much like to hear them, even tho Jon (I), Rick, and Trevor aint along any longer.

I think I know someone who's gonna see'm in London, May 8

And maybe someone in Tilburg, May 22

Remarkable that they have another Jon doing the vocals

I saw that Jon II sings in Glass Hammer.

- Nicky

I'm not going. It's too expensive, and I don't know how to get there (and get back here again).
For that amount of money I would also like to see Jon Anderson (and Rick Wakeman).
Nothing against Jon Davison, he does a fine job in Glass Hammer.

[Nicky007]

I don't know how to get there (and get back here again).

Easy: Get a compass, head south after breakfast, and you'l get there for the concert. Afterwards, just backtrack, and you'll be back for your yogurt in the morning

- Nicky

[PH]

Easy: Get a compass, head south after breakfast, and you'l get there for the concert. Afterwards, just backtrack, and you'll be back for your yogurt in the morning

Without stops it would be an eighteen hour walk, so I will have just missed it! Or I have to start walking at 3 AM.
Of course I could go by bike, that would take five hours.
Anyway, I would have to take two days off work instead of one evening.
It's too complicated. I might as well move over to Tilburg or Zoetermeer permanently, since that's the only places all these prog bands will ever tour.
It seems that Prog is only for the people in the South...

[Nicky007]

There are some nice girls in Tilburg. Find one, and settle down there, before May 22

Alternatively I can teach you some Flying Yoga, then it's swoosh and you're there

- Nicky

[PH]

There are some nice girls in Tilburg. Find one, and settle down there, before May 22

No thanks. Nothing against those southerners but if I have to, I'd rather go west, young man.

Alternatively I can teach you some Flying Yoga, then it's swoosh and you're there

That would be nice, yes. So that's how you'll go to Århus?