Dream Theater signed a record deal with Roadrunner Records. This, along with the title of the new album, can be read on the forum of Mike Portnoy's website in a message posted by Mike himself. Here's a direct link:
http://www.mikeportnoy.com/forum/tm.aspx?m=1543845
Oooooh I can't wait 'till June when I've got my copy of Systematic Chaos in my hands!
What a year this turns out to be for prog-lovers! *horns*
Cheers, Tom
Interesting news!! ;D
There's indeed much coming up!
Dream Theater's new album.
Porcupine Tree's new album.
It Bites' new album.
Ayreon's new album.
Neal Morse's new album.
And I forgot a lot, I already know!
GREAT!!! This is gonna be a great year!
Yes, read it today on the VoicesUK official fan club. This is great news indeed. *horns*
Though i must confess that i was a bit surprised that they signed with Roadrunner Records. Inside Out was my guess. BTW this is not a complaint. Motown would've been okay too. ;D
As long it's Dream Theater. *horns*
Quote from: maddox on Fri, 2007-02-09, 00:07:31
Yes, read it today on the VoicesUK official fan club. This is great news indeed. *horns*
Though i must confess that i was a bit surprised that they signed with Roadrunner Records. Inside Out was my guess. BTW this is not a complaint. Motown would've been okay too. ;D
As long it's Dream Theater. *horns*
Agreed ;D
I like the title. It reminds me of
Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence that I really loved :P
I might repeat myself, but I still can't stand to listen to DT more than 10 or 15 minutes in a row. They are real geniusses on their instruments and I find their compositions extremely interesting, but James' voice simply drives me crazy.
"Stop wailing, James, I really didn't steal your purse...."
Too bad :)
Peter, to be honest I have that same feeling when listening to the first few albums. But from "Metropolis Part 2" and onwards I think James' voice made a big improvement.
Personally I love his voice. But I certainly know what you mean. I must confess that I like James' voice on The Human Equation far better!
And still I REALLY like Dream Theater and they're one of my favourite bands!
I'm very excited that they will release another album!! *horns*
Mike Portnoy released the tracklist on his forum: http://www.mikeportnoy.com/forum/tm.aspx?m=1557221&mpage=1&key=�
DREAM THEATER - SYSTEMATIC CHAOS
1. In The Presence of Enemies Pt.1
2. Forsaken
3. Constant Motion
4. The Dark Eternal Night
5. Repentance
6. Prophets of War
7. The Ministry of Lost Souls
8. In The Presence of Enemies Pt.2
*horns* *horns* *horns* *horns* *horns* *horns*
Tom
The "first song "part 1" last song "part 2" trick", very clever.
The tracks seem very dark.
Enemies, forsaken, dark eternal nights, war, lost souls.
But I can't wait! *horns*
It is just announced that DT will be playing the Fields Of Rock festival in Holland on sunday the 17th of June! I think I just HAVE to go to see them there... ;D
Tom
*Wish it was June. :-\
*horns*
Mwoh, a bit too expensive for me.
Besides, it's all on a sunday (no pun) and that's seriously not done! ;D
Quote from: The Butterfly Man on Thu, 2007-02-08, 23:11:24
What a year this turns out to be for prog-lovers! *horns*
Cheers, Tom
It's going to be a good year, Dream Theater - new album, Marillion - new album, Threshold - new album lot of new music to listen to!
Maybe Arena next year, they've started writing so that's a good thing!
I've got a dilemma. :-\
On CD-wow the new album can be pre-ordered for only €11.99. :-\
And although i know that Dream Theater usually has the tendency not to bring out Limited Editions, i just thought 'new record company'...well...maybe... :-\
So...What to do? ???
Rhetorical question? ???
Okay...
I will....Buy it. ;D
Maybe an idea for the rest of you? ;)
Darn. I just read something on the DPRP news pages:
Quote from: DPRPROADRUNNER RECORDS regret to announce the delay of the new Dream Theater album Systematic Chaos. The album, scheduled for release on June 4th has been postponed due to errors in artwork printing. A&R man Derek Oliver commented: "We regret the postponement of the Dream Theater release due to printing errors in the artwork. The booklets received from the printing factory contained errors that did not pass our high standard quality check, so we had no other choice than to reject the artwork and get it reprinted."
The release date will now be July 23rd.
Systematic Chaos if the first album for the band to be released on Roadrunner records and is the band's ninth album, following the critically acclaimed Octavarium. The album was recorded at Avatar Studios in New York, with veteran engineer/ mixer Paul Northfield (Rush, Queensryche, Porcupine Tree). As usual, Portnoy and Petrucci chose to co-produce the project, which features seven compositions (one a 25-minute epic).
DREAM THEATER - SYSTEMATIC CHAOS
1. In The Presence of Enemies Pt.1
2. Forsaken
3. Constant Motion
4. The Dark Eternal Night
5. Repentance
6. Prophets of War
7. The Ministry of Lost Souls
8. In The Presence of Enemies Pt.2
Produced by John Petrucci and Mike Portnoy
Engineered and Mixed by Paul Northfield
So they postponed the album. Darn. :(
Bear with me.
I wrote this thingy on the Ayreon forum too after read it on the DPRP pages...
Then on the forum of DPRP someone wrote an interesting thing.
Read what i posted on the Ayreon forum:
Quote from: MeOkay...
A few guys on the DPRP-forum mentioned the word....
Well, just read.
The Flower Kings seems to be working on a new album, which apparently would be their last because the singer Hasse Fröberg wanted to...teach in India and will move after the recording and touring to India. Their drummer Marcus would step in to fill his place but under a new name. The word 'Genesis' emerges. Maybe Roine Stolts own name...:roll:
And then this Dream Theater thingy, which i mentioned earlier... :|
:roll:
Like i said before, a few guys mentioned the word...
APRIL FOOL'S! :o
I get the feeling, especially since i looked for clues on both The Flower Kings and Dream Theater site, we have been hoaxed by the guys of DPRP! :P
Anyone with me?
Well, if they did...
Well done. It worked in my case. :oops: (http://thefamilybiz.org/ezboard/emoticons/lol3.gif)
The more i think about it the more i think: We have been hoaxed by the guys of DPRP-pages. ;D
Quote from: maddox on Sun, 2007-04-01, 22:42:54The more i think about it the more i think: We have been hoaxed by the guys of DPRP-pages. ;D
Errr... :-\ wrong... YOU have been hoaxed. ;)
We didn't get the time to reply to your posts, LOL. ;D
Quote from: Mike Portnoy forumDREAM THEATER'S upcoming release "Systematic Chaos" will be released on Tuesday June 5th (date may vary in different countries) and will be available in two formats:
Regular Edition CD:
(http://www.mikeportnoy.com/forum/upfiles.aspx/615/E1C2B911D89D437FB8B0E4F6848F73A2.jpg)
and a Special Edition CD and DVD:
(http://www.mikeportnoy.com/forum/upfiles.aspx/615/6EEA4B38895B486485AAD13C013A71F2.jpg)
The Special Edition DVD will include:
--- the entire album mixed in 5.1 surround sound
--- "Chaos in Progress - The Making of Systematic Chaos"
(a 90-minute documentary directed by Mike Portnoy)
The CD's track listing for both editions is:
1. In The Presence of Enemies Pt.1 (9:00)
2. Forsaken (5:36)
3. Constant Motion (6:55)
4. The Dark Eternal Night (8:51)
5. Repentance (10:43)
6. Prophets Of War (6:01)
7. The Ministry of Lost Souls (14:57)
8. In The Presence of Enemies Pt.2 (16:38)
The band will shoot a video next week for the first single off the album, "Constant Motion".
This sounds interesting. 8)
I sure hope the special edition will be released in Europe as well. There is a link to a Japanese site but that seems a bit far away. :-\
And no, it doesn't seems to be a April Fools joke to me. :D
Finally Dream Theater comes up with special editions.
But why is the traffic light upside down?
And for some reason I begin to see that there are a lot special edition that are in fact not that great.
The entire album in 5.1 surround and a 90-minute documentary... Hmmm...
It will probably (just like PT's latest) cost two times the regular edition. :(
Quote from: PH on Sat, 2007-04-14, 16:52:10
Finally Dream Theater comes up with special editions.
But why is the traffic light upside down?
And for some reason I begin to see that there are a lot special edition that are in fact not that great.
The entire album in 5.1 surround and a 90-minute documentary... Hmmm...
It will probably (just like PT's latest) cost two times the regular edition. :(
I fear you might be right on that one, PH. It probably will cost more.
See here: http://www.cdjapan.co.jp/detailview.html?KEY=RRCY-29143
That's the Japanese link i talked about. They seem to be the first one where you can pre-order it but that doesn't mean it'll be the only one. I'm sure the rest of the horde will follow. ;D
Oh, and that traffic light thingy? That's the chaos reference i guess. ;)
Don't know if I will go for the SE but I like its cover a lot !
Did you notice the 9 ants for the band's 9th album ?
Quote from: Bupie on Mon, 2007-04-16, 09:25:43
Don't know if I will go for the SE but I like its cover a lot !
Did you notice the 9 ants for the band's 9th album ?
Now that you mention it, yes you're right. I never notice that. :D
Edit: since i'm a sucker for Second Editions and the fact that i already pre-ordered the regular version, i think i will probably buy them both. :D
Quote from: maddox on Mon, 2007-04-16, 19:40:00
Now that you mention it, yes you're right. I never notice that. :D
Edit: since i'm a sucker for Second Editions and the fact that i already pre-ordered the regular version, i think i will probably buy them both. :D
I am still hesitating but I already know which version I am going to pick in the end :)
And I am gonna see them live for the first time in Clermont-Ferrand on the 26th of june :P
Quote from: maddox on Mon, 2007-04-16, 19:40:00
Edit: since i'm a sucker for Second Editions and the fact that i already pre-ordered the regular version, i think i will probably buy them both. :D
Why just buy one when you can buy two!
Quote from: maddox on Mon, 2007-04-16, 19:40:00i think i will probably buy them both. :D
Why? ???
Quote from: Bupie on Tue, 2007-04-17, 12:22:38
I am still hesitating but I already know which version I am going to pick in the end :)
And I am gonna see them live for the first time in Clermont-Ferrand on the 26th of june :P
You're going to like it. Trust me. I saw them 6 times. *horns*
Quote from: PH on Tue, 2007-04-17, 19:01:59
Why? ???
Quote from: meEdit: since i'm a sucker for Second Editions and the fact that i already pre-ordered the regular version, i think i will probably buy them both. Cheesy
That's why. :D
Let's share this with you. ;D
Click on the link below and you'll get a chance to listen to a song of the new album. The track is called Constant Motion and it sounds too good to be fake. ;)
Enjoy yourself. *horns*
http://icanseethepixels.com/crap/DreamTheater-ConstantMotion.mp3 (http://icanseethepixels.com/crap/DreamTheater-ConstantMotion.mp3)
Man, let me tell you: I'm So happy with this new album. *horns* :D ;D
Unofficially of course. ;)
Quote from: maddox on Sun, 2007-05-13, 20:36:29
Man, let me tell you: I'm So happy with this new album. *horns* :D ;D
Unofficially of course. ;)
Let's just say you've got a promo copy. ;) :D
Haven't heard it yet.
But I have no doubt, it must be amazing, it's Dream Theater.
Oh, how I do sound like a fanboy right now!
Quote from: PH on Sun, 2007-05-13, 21:03:58
Let's just say you've got a promo copy. ;) :D
Of course i have. What else? ;D
Quote from: maddox on Sun, 2007-05-13, 22:26:27
Of course i have. What else? ;D
;D
Well... I have one too now, gonna listen to it right away! *horns*
Hey guys, please don't discuss any of the album's content until it's officially released. There are people (like me) who like to read discussions on how the album may sound, not on how it does sound! I plan to buy it on the releasedate, and don't want to download it (or shall I call that 'obtaining a promo copy'? ;)) prior to that date, so everything will be new for me.
Thanks!
Tom
Quote from: The Butterfly Man on Sun, 2007-05-13, 23:25:28
Hey guys, please don't discuss any of the album's content until it's officially released. There are people (like me) who like to read discussions on how the album may sound, not on how it does sound! I plan to buy it on the releasedate, and don't want to download it (or shall I call that 'obtaining a promo copy'? ;)) prior to that date, so everything will be new for me.
Thanks!
Tom
Sure! Fair enough!
Just one thing I want to say:
Spoiler:
What is Dream Theater doing?? It seems as if they're turning into something religious. Ministry Of Souls anyone? Brilliant album by the way!
Spoiler ends here.
There seems to be lot of expertise on Dream Theater here in the Room. As I'm somewhat, but not very, familiar with DT, I'd like to tap some of that expertise. Therefore I'd like you guys to comment on the following three questions:
Why is Dream Theater widely considered to be the flagship of prog?
Where do you find the best of DT, and why?
In what ways has DT changed your life?
I had the same experience as Peter, that I just couldn't get gripped by LaBrie's vocals, until I heard Six Degrees, where he had really upped himself and gained a lot of expression. Six Degrees reawakened my passion for Dream Theater. So now I'm getting into the later stuff and looking very much forward to Systematic Chaos (and I've decided to get Score too, when I strike upon the much sought for goldmine).
Nicky.
> Though i must confess that i was a bit surprised that they signed with Roadrunner Records. Inside Out was my guess. BTW this is not a complaint. Motown would've been okay too. As long it's Dream Theater.
Good joke, Maddox, and you're right: If you have so much talent, nothing can stop it. Even if you had Heintje on the vocals, Dream Theater would be great.
Nicky.
Quote from: The Butterfly Man on Sun, 2007-05-13, 23:25:28
Hey guys, please don't discuss any of the album's content until it's officially released. There are people (like me) who like to read discussions on how the album may sound, not on how it does sound! I plan to buy it on the releasedate, and don't want to download it (or shall I call that 'obtaining a promo copy'? ;)) prior to that date, so everything will be new for me.
Thanks!
Tom
You know what, Tom? You're absolutely right and i apologies for that. It wasn't really thoughtful of me. I remember some time ago just when Pain Of Salvation's Scarsick would be released, there were a lot of reviewers on the DPRP-forum who said how good or how bad the album was and there i was, sitting behind the screen and never heard a single note of that album. That made me...yes i must confess: a bit irritated. No offence to those guys, but i had to wait a whole month more to hear it. That's the fortunes of being a reviewer. You get to hear the albums way sooner that the mere mortal. ;)
I must add that having this 'promo' copy doesn't change a thing for me. I still have both editions on pre-order and am curious about the rest of the package too. You know, the artwork, the lyrics (which i always find very interesting since i write a few lines myself ;)) etc etc.
I'm a bit of a fan, you know. :D
So like i said earlier: My excuses. ;)
Quote from: Nicky007 on Mon, 2007-05-14, 15:43:12
I had the same experience as Peter, that I just couldn't get gripped by LaBrie's vocals
I agree with you on that one, Nicky. After Awake and before Metropolis pt II: Scenes From A Memory, James' voice wasn't all to good. Especially live he was sometimes aweful, on Five Years In A Lifetime for instance. Dreadful i must say. I've got some official bootlegs from Ytsejam records and the ones that were recorded between the two albums i've mentioned earlier are really not so great. And with that i mean the vocals. It's extremely great how they control their instruments, very virtuosity to say the least but to me James was always the weakest link in the band. Until SFAM and further on. He gained a lot of power since then and his voice isn't 'tired' any more at the end of the tour.
I've seen Dream Theater six times until now and trust me, it's better than before.
Why is Dream Theater the flagship of prog? Well not entirely prog by it's definition. Personally i consider them prog/metal though they have there tender moments too. ;)
Maybe because of their musician skills. They never limit their self to any boundary and are constantly searching for new ideas and tunes. Yes, every musician does or should do that but the way they do it, makes my neck skin crawl and with that i mean on a positive way.
The best of DT in my opinion can be found in tracks like A Mind Besides Itself, A Change Of Seasons and Octavarium. Yes, pretty long numbers but it suits them.
By the way, i consider Metropolis Pt I as their best song ever made. ;)
So, and now a cup of coffee. ;D
Yup, Maddox (and Englishmen), you're absolutely right about that one: > So, and now a cup of coffee.
I'm also on my way out into the kitchen (mine, not yours) to make a hot, steaming, damn good (quoting the Agent) cup of coffee. And after that a beer, huh?
Nicky.
Quote from: Nicky007 on Mon, 2007-05-14, 20:49:42
Yup, Maddox (and Englishmen), you're absolutely right about that one: > So, and now a cup of coffee.
I'm also on my way out into the kitchen (mine, not yours) to make a hot, steaming, damn good (quoting the Agent) cup of coffee. And after that a beer, huh?
Nicky.
Hmm, that should be in the 'Now Eating/Drinking thread. ;D
I wasn't really done yet. You asked another question*. :D
Quote from: Nicky007 on Mon, 2007-05-14, 15:43:12
In what ways has DT changed your life?
Well it did change my perspective of music. When Images & Words was released back in '91 i heard it in the local recordstore, Staphorst in Utrecht btw ;).
When i heard the first tunes of Pull Me Under i was literally blown from my chair. This was Amazing. :o I was quite a metal head back then, listened to Marillion and PF too but the more guitars the better, but after that...
It really was my defining moment in music. *horns*
*again a blatant attempt to raise my post count. :D]
OK, Maddox, now I got my hot steaming coffee (and it really is damn good), and I had the leisure to read your post on DT.
Thanks a lot for your comments. You seem to be the DT expert here. (I'm hoping to provoke some others into action.)
I'll keep your fave tracks in mind.
I think too that it was good that the DT fans were patient with LaBrie. Six Degrees is really growing on me, and LaBrie's vocals too. I think, for a lot of us today, DT wouldn't sound right without him.
So, I guess God has a purpose with all of us (although what his purpose is with me is still a mystery to me).
Nicky.
> Hmm, that should be in the 'Now Eating/Drinking thread.
I thought you meant that DT and a good cup of coffee belonged together.
Yeah, I forgot one too:
> Why is Dream Theater the flagship of prog? Well not entirely prog by it's definition. Personally i consider them prog/metal though they have there tender moments too.
It seems that we have different perceptions of "prog". I take the word literally, that a prog group is continually progressing, experimenting, including new genres, elements. So, in my use of the word, DT is very much prog, just as Arena, Zero Hour, Spock's Beard, and just as Fish-era Marillion were (today, they're more like: asleep. Sorry, Marillion fans).
Nicky.
I don't know what has become of me. I've had the first CD of Six Degrees on repeat the whole day. It just becomes better and better. This has only happened to me in recent times with Contagion and Fullness of Time. Six Degrees is an absurdly good album. I had also read in several reviews that it was a difficult album to get into, but once it took hold of you, it wouldn't let you go.
Nicky.
Quote from: Nicky007 on Mon, 2007-05-14, 23:53:06
I don't know what has become of me. I've had the first CD of Six Degrees on repeat the whole day. It just becomes better and better. This has only happened to me in recent times with Contagion and Fullness of Time. Six Degrees is an absurdly good album. I had also read in several reviews that it was a difficult album to get into, but once it took hold of you, it wouldn't let you go.
Nicky.
Yeah, bring on The Glass Prison! It ROCKS!!! *horns* *horns* *horns*
The instrumental middle part of Blind Faith is just breathtaking!
Misunderstood is a great tune. The only thing with it is, I'm still unsure what to think of the ending 'noises'.
The Great Debate might be my favourite of disc 1!
Disappear is so hauntingly beautiful!
I think I'll just have to listen to it.........NOW! ;D *horns*
Tom
Quote from: maddox on Mon, 2007-05-14, 20:28:54
So like i said earlier: My excuses. ;)
You don't need to apologize, it's alright. I am so pumped for this album, and your comments on it so far make me feel very good about it, although I wish I didn't read them. But hey, you can't have 'em all, or can you? ;)
Tom
Quote from: The Butterfly Man on Tue, 2007-05-15, 00:02:36
Yeah, bring on The Glass Prison! It ROCKS!!! *horns* *horns* *horns*
The instrumental middle part of Blind Faith is just breathtaking!
Misunderstood is a great tune. The only thing with it is, I'm still unsure what to think of the ending 'noises'.
The Great Debate might be my favourite of disc 1!
Disappear is so hauntingly beautiful!
I think I'll just have to listen to it.........NOW! ;D *horns*
Tom
??? You just read in my mind, didn't you ?
I consider
SDOIT as DT's second masterpiece besides
I&W. Both are much better than
SFAM for my taste (but I am not a metal fan so it could explain my choices). I really don't understand why people say that
SDOIT is too metallic or to difficult to get into ??? Maybe it's because of the word turbulence in the title ? Or maybe they just listened to The Glass Prison (which is great metal song, anyway) ?
> I really don't understand why people say that SDOIT is too metallic or to difficult to get into.
Bupie, you may have had a special propensity for it, but I've heard from many sides that Six Degrees is a very difficult album to get into. And I think it's very deliberate on DT's side, taking their role as prog flagship seriously.
Six Degrees and Fullness of Time are the two albums in recent times that have taken most effort for me to get into. Only after about 5-6 listens, did I begin to really enjoy them. But then in both cases I also became a junkie.
Nicky.
Quote from: Bupie on Tue, 2007-05-15, 11:26:59
??? You just read in my mind, didn't you ?
I consider SDOIT as DT's second masterpiece besides I&W. Both are much better than SFAM for my taste (but I am not a metal fan so it could explain my choices). I really don't understand why people say that SDOIT is too metallic or to difficult to get into ??? Maybe it's because of the word turbulence in the title ? Or maybe they just listened to The Glass Prison (which is great metal song, anyway) ?
You're not a metalfan, so don't you enjoy disc 2 more than disc 1? Yeah I'm just curious, 'cause it seems that all the prog-lovers like disc 2 better, and the metalheads seem to prefer disc 1.
About SFAM, are you sure we listened to the same album? I think SFAM is much more symphonic than Six Degrees (well, especially disc 1). I'm a DT-fan since SFAM, and back in those days I wasn't really into metal, so it says a lot that I liked (and still like!) it so much. Over the last few years I developed a slight preference to the metal-element in prog, and I think that's because of DT...
Tom
Quote from: The Butterfly Man on Tue, 2007-05-15, 13:13:48
You're not a metalfan, so don't you enjoy disc 2 more than disc 1? Yeah I'm just curious, 'cause it seems that all the prog-lovers like disc 2 better, and the metalheads seem to prefer disc 1.
No, frankly I enjoy both discs equally and I think that the two metal songs on disc 2 (sorry but for me SDOIT, "the song", is not one song but a collection of different songs), WIMH and TTTSTA, are more heavy than TGP on disc 1. And disc 1 has Blind Faith that is an absolute favorite of mine.
QuoteAbout SFAM, are you sure we listened to the same album? I think SFAM is much more symphonic than Six Degrees (well, especially disc 1). I'm a DT-fan since SFAM, and back in those days I wasn't really into metal, so it says a lot that I liked (and still like!) it so much. Over the last few years I developed a slight preference to the metal-element in prog, and I think that's because of DT...
Tom
Yes I am sure. I like it very much too, of course, but I find some instrumental passages overlong. Home, for instance, could be four minutes shorter. And the metal intro of Beyond this Life is really not my cup of tea. This kind of unmelodic metal -at least to my ears- is the only thing that I dislike in DT. Examples in other albums are Scarred, Lie, The Mirror, Burning my Soul, Let me Breathe, Honor thy Father, This Dying Soul. And I find the 19' version of Beyond this Life on LAB almost unlistenable ...
On the other hand, I feel fine with TGP, TROAE, As I Am, Never Enough or SoC. I guess it is because, although those songs are heavy too, their melody hooks me (for SoC, I'm sure : I am addicted to it :D). But there is not a rational explanation to everything ...
To you post-Scenes DT fans, if you haven't yet listened to Thought Chamber's Angular Perceptions, you're missing something bigtime. The style is quite similar to that of the first CD of Six Degrees.
Nicky.
Quote from: Nicky007 on Thu, 2007-05-24, 00:31:18
To you post-Scenes DT fans, if you haven't yet listened to Thought Chamber's Angular Perceptions, you're missing something bigtime. The style is quite similar to that of the first CD of Six Degrees.
Nicky.
Never heard of Thought Chamber before ??? I am going to check it out.
Hm, I better take the quote, now that it's Bupie. OK, Bupie, hope you're pleased:
Quote from: Bupie on Fri, 2007-05-25, 11:22:04
Never heard of Thought Chamber before ??? I am going to check it out.
Then also check out Michael Harris' other albums, particularly Distorted Views and Orchestrate. You can see what I've written about MH in my Genius List (Listening Profile).
Nicky.
*SPOILER ALERT*
Ladies and gents, look here (http://www.roadrunnerrecords.com/SystematicChaos/) for some Dream Theater Goodies.
But beware: there are some footages of the Studio-sessions as well a part of a (not going to say which one ;D) of the new album. *horns*
Enjoy yourselfs. ;D
Quote from: Peter on Fri, 2007-02-09, 16:39:08
I might repeat myself, but I still can't stand to listen to DT more than 10 or 15 minutes in a row. They are real geniusses on their instruments and I find their compositions extremely interesting, but James' voice simply drives me crazy.
"Stop wailing, James, I really didn't steal your purse...."
Too bad :)
A German, who has humor. Wow! :D
The captain thinks La Brie is cheezy.
Well, objectively I would not consider him (LaBrie, that is) one of the greatest singers (that would be Rob Sowden, Mac, Chris Cornell, Ray Alder, and a few more), but he (still LaBrie) really belongs to the DT-sound, and I would fight to death to keep him there.
Hey, I just got an idea for a new topic. Wait and see. I think that this will bring him (the captain this time) down from the command post for a moment.
Nicky.
Okay ladies and gentlemen, I seriously cannot wait any longer, it's killing me!!! Must.....stay......away.......from.......downloading.......aaaahhhhrrrrggghhhh!!! :-\
Just a couple of days left...
Tom
Can empathise with your agony, Tom. Looking forward to your eval and comparison with earlier DT-albums. After all, you're the DT-expert around here (hi Maddox, PH and Bupie).
Nicky.
Quote from: Nicky007 on Wed, 2007-05-30, 11:19:12
Can empathise with your agony, Tom. Looking forward to your eval and comparison with earlier DT-albums. After all, you're the DT-expert around here (hi Maddox, PH and Bupie).
Nicky.
Hi Nicky,
Re-listened to SDOIT last week-end and it is still freaking awesome !!! Well, my girlfriend has a slightly different appreciation on it :-[ so I feel like I am in a solitary shell sometimes ...
Quote from: Bupie on Wed, 2007-05-30, 15:42:05
Re-listened to SDOIT last week-end and it is still freaking awesome !!!
Betcha, I also listen to it daily. I've realised now that Octavarium is genius too. I love that Floyd atmosphere on Oct.
> Well, my girlfriend has a slightly different appreciation on it :-[ so I feel like I am in a solitary shell sometimes ...
I haven't yet met a woman who enjoys Six Degrees and the following DT-albums. They don't seem to be in the Room either, or?
And living in the French countryside probably adds to the solitary experience.
Arena are more easily appreciated, which however doesn't make them less prog.
Nicky.
I just received two mails saying that both editions are on its way. ;D
Me very happy. *horns*
I've got it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Finally! So now I lock myself away from the world for the rest of the day, trying to digest it all.....
See ya tomorrow!! *horns* *horns* *horns*
Tom
Congrats!
Remember to give us a solid evaluation after some listens.
So you've started marketing !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!'s. PH does the oooooooooooo's, and I the .................'s. I've already plundered Appelmoes' piggy bank because of his ............ addiction.
I've also started selling umlauts to Maddox. He pays well, because he needs them badly.
Dinnertime, Tom! You gotta get some physical food, or else you'll get the other DT.
Nicky.
Quote from: The Butterfly Man on Fri, 2007-06-01, 13:01:43
I've got it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Finally! So now I lock myself away from the world for the rest of the day, trying to digest it all.....
See ya tomorrow!! *horns* *horns* *horns*
Tom
Congrats, Tom. I received my Deluxe set today so i have it too. The artwork looks awesome. Haven't had the time yet to watch the DVD but i'm sure i will this weekend.
No. 1 in my end of the year list already. :D *horns*
*Me happy. ;D
Quote from: Nicky007 on Fri, 2007-06-01, 14:41:21
So you've started marketing !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!'s.
That's absolutely not true!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ;D :P
Quote from: maddox on Sat, 2007-06-02, 01:06:07
Congrats, Tom. I received my Deluxe set today so i have it too.
Congrats to you too! I like it a lot! Favourites so far are In The Presence Of Enemies (part 1 and 2) and The Ministry Of Lost Souls.
More details later, I have to listen to it again... *horns*
Tom
Quote from: The Butterfly Man on Sat, 2007-06-02, 17:36:25
Congrats to you too! I like it a lot! Favourites so far are In The Presence Of Enemies (part 1 and 2) and The Ministry Of Lost Souls.
More details later, I have to listen to it again... *horns*
Tom
Couldn't agree with you more, Tom. :D
Must admit that i personally think that Prophets Of War is from a lesser quality, mind you lesser not total crap since i do like the song, but overall it's an extremely good album.
Combine Six Degrees with Train Of Thought and you'll end up with Systematic Chaos. *horns* *horns* *horns*
I think you are going to like this album too, Nicky. :D
Quote from: Nicky007 on Wed, 2007-05-30, 21:43:51
I haven't yet met a woman who enjoys Six Degrees and the following DT-albums. They don't seem to be in the Room either, or?
And living in the French countryside probably adds to the solitary experience.
Arena are more easily appreciated, which however doesn't make them less prog.
Nicky.
Yeahhhhhh I'm a woman, and I enjoy DT very much! Before and after Six degrees (I must admit I prefer the second disc of this one...) *ola*
First my boyfriend was in his solitary shell listening to them, but I join quite fast! Without any regrets ! ;D ;)
I can't wait to be on Friday night at Esch to seem them on stage (with Riverside as guest, it will be a terribly good evening for me!)
Speaking of "Systematic Chaos", I have some difficulty to hear "Dark Eternal Night", but I'm listening with pleasure all the rest!!!! *horns* Less "commercial" than Octovarium... more metal *horns*.
For now my favourite is Forsaken, but I also like Constant Motion a lot, as well as In the Presences of Ennemies... well and all the album except that N°4 song! ;D
Quote from: POM on Tue, 2007-06-12, 11:53:26
Yeahhhhhh I'm a woman, and I enjoy DT very much! Before and after Six degrees
Great! And you can even share the joy with your boyfriend.
And at last a Belgian turns up in the room. I'll have to drink a Blue Chimay on that. Your beers alone make you valuable to the world.
And enjoy DT and Riverside fully on Friday, and know that you're representing a lot of Roomies there.
Nicky.
There are interviews with Mike and James on the new album (wmv):
Mike Portnoy interview (http://www.roadrunnerrecords.it/video/showVideo.aspx?fileID=2435)
James LaBrie interview Pt. 1 (medium quality) (http://www.roadrunnerrecords.it/video/showVideo.aspx?fileID=2446) (high quality) (http://www.roadrunnerrecords.it/video/showVideo.aspx?fileID=2445) (low quality) (http://www.roadrunnerrecords.it/video/showVideo.aspx?fileID=2447)
James LaBrie interview Pt. 2 (medium quality) (http://www.roadrunnerrecords.it/video/showVideo.aspx?fileID=2489) (high quality) (http://www.roadrunnerrecords.it/video/showVideo.aspx?fileID=2488) (low quality) (http://www.roadrunnerrecords.it/video/showVideo.aspx?fileID=2490)
And for people who haven't seen all the other videos going all over the web:
An advertisment with small excerpts from the Bonus DVD of Systematic Chaos and from the SCORE DVD (http://www.roadrunnerrecords.it/video/showVideo.aspx?fileID=2292)
The Dark Eternal Night, the whole song in studio played. (http://www.roadrunnerrecords.it/video/showVideo.aspx?fileID=2343) (Quicktime version) (http://www.roadrunnerrecords.it/video/showVideo.aspx?fileID=2354)
DT are gonna have a gig in my hometown on October 9th!!!!! *horns* *horns* *horns*
This is my first post in quite a while, but you see, I'm totally floored by Systematic Chaos ;D
Tom
Quote from: The Butterfly Man on Sun, 2007-06-17, 13:07:47
DT are gonna have a gig in my hometown on October 9th!!!!! *horns* *horns* *horns*
This is my first post in quite a while, but you see, I'm totally floored by Systematic Chaos ;D
Tom
Yeah, I was actually missing you for a while, Tom, i.a. for our fave five poll. As you probably noticed, DT lost to IQ and Porcupine Tree. Looks like people here are more on the light side.
Are you going to the gig in your hometown? ;D
What is your hometown, btw?
OK, hope to see you around bit more now.
Nicky.
According to the date it must be Rotterdam. ;D
Well, i'm already going to the gig in Antwerpen on October 4th so i think i will miss that one. :-\
Typical: They're playing in Stockholm, Oslo, Helsinki, even Warsaw, and I don't know how many places in England and Germany; and where are they not playing: Copenhagen, of course. It's as if you had a map of Europe, where there was light all over the place, and a black splotch between Germany and Sweden. I can only say one thing: Good grief.
Cap, you can send all your lederhosen-bands to Denmark instead.
Guess I'll have to catch an X2000 to Stockholm. Fortunately it's summer.
Nicky.
I was not owherwelmed by the first listens but now the album is (strongly) growing on me : my favorite so far are ITPOTE part 1 and Prophets of War (my 8 and 4 years old kids like this one too) but I know by experience that this is prone to frequent turnover. No real bad song overall IMHO.
And only 5 days left before the Clermont-Ferrand gig !!! ;D
I took a quick look at the different setlists since the beginning of this european leg and only three songs of SC are played : Constant Motion, TDEN and Forsaken.
I guess they will play more of the new album when they return in autumn. Maybe tuesday I will have the pleasure to listen to the entire I&W since it seems that they played it a few times on this leg.
I will tell you that next wednesday (or a little bit later if I need time to recover ;))
Fasten your seatbelts, ladies and gents, because it's time to review the concert of the year, decade, century ... ? *horns* *horns* *horns*
Finally, I put my report on Progarchives, in the dedicated section for live reviews : http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=39471, but I'd rather discuss here because I find people definitively and infinitely nicer in the Shattered Room 8)
Great show, anyway : go and see them at first occasion, especially in a small venue.
Thanks for sharing your experience with us, Bupie. Sounds like it was a great concert. Makes me look even more forward to their gig in Stockholm, September 28.
One of the things I like about DT is that they prefer to play in moderately sized concert halls. With their current fan base, they could play the big places.
I've been wondering about, what's Jamie like as frontman? What are the audience like (age, hair, dress, etc)?
Nicky.
Quote from: Nicky007 on Sun, 2007-07-01, 18:13:39
I've been wondering about, what's Jamie like as frontman? What are the audience like (age, hair, dress, etc)?
Nicky.
As I said in my review, James is a much better frontman than I expected. And the audience was very diverse in age and looks, but no many long hair and metal looks, though ...
Hmm, just read that DT will release a couple of new Official Bootlegs on their bootleg site YtseJam Records. (http://www.ytsejamrecords.com/default.asp).
Sounds very interesting. ;D
Quote from: maddox on Fri, 2007-07-27, 17:33:46
Hmm, just read that DT will release a couple of new Official Bootlegs on their bootleg site YtseJam Records. (http://www.ytsejamrecords.com/default.asp).
Sounds very interesting. ;D
I think that's gonna cost us a lot of money again! ;)
Tom
Quote from: The Butterfly Man on Sun, 2007-07-29, 17:18:02
I think that's gonna cost us a lot of money again! ;)
Tom
I'm sure of that. :D
But less expensive than this very special item:
http://www.dreamtheater.net/ebay/dream_pod.php (http://www.dreamtheater.net/ebay/dream_pod.php) 8)
Quote from: Micha on Wed, 2007-08-15, 22:32:46
But less expensive than this very special item:
http://www.dreamtheater.net/ebay/dream_pod.php (http://www.dreamtheater.net/ebay/dream_pod.php) 8)
;D
Finally listening to SC, Forsaken and The Ministry Of Lost Souls.......How can a band that write and perform songs of this quality be anything other than the biggest band on the planet (Other than Arena). The rest of it could take a few more listens to really "stick" but those 2 tracks.....up there with the best.
*horns* John
You know, what's weird is that the whole damn album is fantastic from beginning to end, probably the best DT-album.
I thought I'd go mad listening to it. Well, that fortunately didn't happen, but I know I'll go mad with the next one.
Nicky.
Quote from: Nicky007 on Thu, 2007-08-16, 19:16:38
You know, what's weird is that the whole damn album is fantastic from beginning to end, probably the best DT-album.
Nicky.
This may come as a shock to some of you (Nicky?;)) but after a couple of months of listening to SC, I don't think it is their best album. Don't ask me why but I think I like Scenes From A Memory and Six Degrees (especially disc 2) just a little bit more. Don't get me wrong, there are lots of great tunes on SC but I think I prefer the overal 'feel' of the aforementioned albums. However, if you would ask what my favourite DT-song is, I would say.....................................In The Presence Of Enemies (Part 1 and 2 combined). Strange eh? :D
Tom
btw, I'm in a metal-mood so I'm listening to The Dark Eternal Night right now *horns*.
Quote from: The Butterfly Man on Fri, 2007-08-17, 00:05:56
This may come as a shock to some of you (Nicky?;)) but after a couple of months of listening to SC, I don't think it is their best album. Don't ask me why but I think I like Scenes From A Memory and Six Degrees (especially disc 2) just a little bit more. Don't get me wrong, there are lots of great tunes on SC but I think I prefer the overal 'feel' of the aforementioned albums.
I agree with you on that one :)
Seems as if I have lot to catch up on... I haven't got any of DT's later albums because obviously I'm not one of those experts Nicky was looking for! ;)
Quote from: Nicky007 on Mon, 2007-05-14, 21:11:10
Thanks a lot for your comments. You seem to be the DT expert here. (I'm hoping to provoke some others into action.)
The best Dream Theater song for me is (and probably always will be) 'Pull Me Under'. *horns*
Quote from: bluepony on Fri, 2007-08-17, 09:20:07
I'm not one of those experts Nicky was looking for! ;)
Meantime I've become the leading DT expert in the Room, and therefore SC
is their best album, punkt slut. 8) 8) 8)
Nicky.
Quote from: bluepony on Fri, 2007-08-17, 09:20:07
The best Dream Theater song for me is (and probably always will be) 'Pull Me Under'. *horns*
That's because you're waiting for Tom to do it with you, Bluey. Well, seems like you'll be waiting for a looong time, Tom's rather shy :D
Nicky.
Quote from: Nicky007 on Fri, 2007-08-17, 09:58:31
...punkt slut. 8) 8) 8)
Nicky.
Hey, Nicky, who are you calling a punk slut?! ;) ;D
Quote from: Nicky007 on Fri, 2007-08-17, 10:05:36
That's because you're waiting for Tom to do it with you, Bluey. Well, seems like you'll be waiting for a looong time, Tom's rather shy :D
Nicky.
Oh, good thing that you told me, because I thought it was because I like rock music! ;D
Quote from: bluepony on Fri, 2007-08-17, 10:12:49
Oh, good thing that you told me, because I thought it was because I like rock music! ;D
Women don't know what's good for them ;D
NP DT-SC *horns* *horns* *horns*
Stay away, all you buggers, and let me have my systematic chaos ::)
I got John on my side, even without filling him with beer :D
Nicky.
And once more *horns*
Quote from: Nicky007 on Fri, 2007-08-17, 11:55:00
Women don't know what's good for them ;D
If you say so... ;)
Quote from: bluepony on Fri, 2007-08-17, 10:09:16
Hey, Nicky, who are you calling a punk slut?! ;) ;D
How about Angie? Oh, that was mean again, Nicky, f*, where's the smiley for slap?
Nicky.
Angie who? ???
Quote from: bluepony on Fri, 2007-08-17, 12:07:33
If you say so... ;)
Tom knows what's good for you, Bluey :D
Man, one can really get a lot of nonsense out of this theme ;D
Nicky.
And it's soooooo off topic again...! :D
Quote from: bluepony on Fri, 2007-08-17, 12:12:09
Angie who? ???
Big Ma Angie, of course, Bluey, haven't you noticed, old man Gerry's gone gone gone ;D
Nicky.
So are we talking politics now? (Help!!)
Quote from: bluepony on Fri, 2007-08-17, 09:20:07
The best Dream Theater song for me is (and probably always will be) 'Pull Me Under'. *horns*
Hail bluepony. *horns* *horns* *horns*
;D
Quote from: Nicky007 on Fri, 2007-08-17, 11:55:00Women don't know
NEVER start a sentence with that, you would scare off the few girls we have on this board.
Oh and by the way... They DO know... :(
Ah yes, PH with his extensive experience with women :D I'm serious, how long have you been dating now PH? Pretty impressive if I may say so!
Oh yes, ontopic. Pull me Under is great, but I wouldn't say it was their best.
Quote from: maddox on Fri, 2007-08-17, 17:19:25
Hail bluepony. *horns* *horns* *horns*
Thanks, Maddox! :)
Quite fun, especially for you, Paco (from Wikipedia, on Octavarium):
Many fans have made observations about the recurrances of 5s and 8s in the album art, possibly a reference to the Golden ratio, very common in art throughout history and in Nature itself. The name Octavarium itself has 5 syllables, while connotating 8. The use of 5s and 8s stems from the number of natural notes (white keys on a piano) and black keys (sharp/flat notes) in an octave. It may also refer to the number of members in the band from its inception in 1985 to 2005, Octavarium being the band's 8th studio album, and the subsequent "Score" being their fifth live album.
Several of the 5 and 8 references in the album are:
1. This is their 8th album and they have released 5 live DVDs.
2. The cover and back cover show a Newton's Cradle with eight pendulums, and five birds in between them, arranged in the same pattern as black piano keys. (The black birds represent flats and sharps and the balls of the pendulum represent the natural notes.)
3. On the spine of the album there are piano keys in an octave.
4. On the page 5 of the booklet, there are two dominoes summing up to 5 and 8.
5. On the page 7 of the booklet, there is a spider (which has eight legs) trapped inside an octagon-shaped maze. The maze is made of five layers and has eight doorways amongst the layers, and eight walls that form "dead ends".
6. On the page 11 of the booklet, there is an octopus (which has eight legs), five fish and an octagonal stop sign.
7. On the page 13 of the booklet, there is a plant in which a five-pointed star was drawn inside an octagon. The scale of the plant is stated to be 5:8.
8. On the insides of the the front and back covers of the booklet, there are two pictures of the same boy holding two ends of a can telephone. First picture is accompanied by 8 lines of capitalized text (track titles). Second picture is accompanied by 5 lines (band members' names).
9. The boy has 5 fingers showing in one picture, and the other picture only has 3 fingers showing.. adds up to eight.
10. The booklet itself has eight pages, if left and right pages are considered to be a single page.
11. On the inlay of the album, there is a billiards eight-ball.
12. The title track (Octavarium) comprises five movements.
Also, the star in the octagon has musical keys written around it that go in a circle of fifths.
The Newton's Cradle on the cover and the musical hooks connecting all the songs together lyrically and melodically have also given rise to the theory that the entire album is intended to be a concept album portraying continuity.
Nicky.
Yeah, I know most of that already and thought it was quite interesting!
Thanks anyway.
-Paco