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Title: Bands you hate
Post by: Lordi_monsterman on Fri, 2005-09-16, 17:44:22
Ok here are the rules. You gotta give everyone a band you hate and you have to tell us why in 150 words exactly.  ;D

I bet you can't do it ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Bands you hate
Post by: Peter on Fri, 2005-09-16, 18:51:13
Pretty dam negative type of topic, if you ask me. You started the topic, your turn to start the rally.
Title: Re: Bands you hate
Post by: creme anglais on Fri, 2005-09-16, 19:25:03
bands we hate huh???
prog bands, or any bands?
150  words maximum, or less???

I need to know, cos if I start a rant, it might go over the 150...........

CAx
Title: Re: Bands you hate
Post by: Proglady on Fri, 2005-09-16, 20:12:57
Quote from: creme anglais on Fri, 2005-09-16, 19:25:03
bands we hate huh???
prog bands, or any bands?
150  words maximum, or less???

I need to know, cos if I start a rant, it might go over the 150...........

CAx

Hm, I thought exactly means not more than 150 words and not less than 150 words  ::)
Title: Re: Bands you hate
Post by: Higgins III on Fri, 2005-09-16, 22:37:16
Its damn near impossible to talk about bands you hate in 150 words exactly. Infact it would be a waste of time. I think the person who started this thread *coughs* Lordi_monsterman *coughs* should atleast try to give it a go himself to get the rest of us motivated. In the words of the owner of this thread...

...bet you can't do it ;D
Title: Re: Bands you hate
Post by: keyboardistmatt on Sat, 2005-09-17, 19:27:23
See the following thread for my answer...
http://shattered-room.net/index.php?topic=75.msg3083#msg3083
Title: Re: Bands you hate
Post by: Higgins III on Sat, 2005-09-17, 20:04:31
Ok. Cool. But not 150 words exactly. But i still think the owner of the thread should give it a go first.  ;D go ahead lordi_monsterman ;D Show us all if it is so easy as you say it is
Title: Re: Bands you hate
Post by: Lordi_monsterman on Sat, 2005-09-17, 23:50:44
well i don't like d12 cos to me they're music makes no sense and the band should not exist because it's just eminem trying to get more money then he has already got just to give himself more publicity. d12 to me think about themselves more then their fans because it's mostly young people who listen to that, so to use the language that they use it's just crap. If you are going to make a band and you want listeners from all over the place including young people then make 2 albums like dr dre, because at least then you have a censored version for the little ones, which then means you will have an uncensored version for the more mature teenagers who enjoy the music, especially if their parents don't care about the language. I won't go over the top because someone might hit me hard.
Title: Re: Bands you hate
Post by: Higgins III on Sun, 2005-09-18, 01:10:34
Ok. I stand correced. It is possible and with that i will with draw my critisisms (Don't know weather i spelt that right because im too tired)



Title: Re: Bands you hate
Post by: Deenfan on Mon, 2005-09-19, 01:30:18
To the two last posters: You have both funny misspellings in your avatar texts...

And I hate at least 150 bands that doesn't have keyboards, or use them incorrectly. Was that intolerant enough? ;D
Title: Re: Bands you hate
Post by: keyboardistmatt on Mon, 2005-09-19, 14:38:21
Quote from: Deenfan on Mon, 2005-09-19, 01:30:18
And I hate at least 150 bands that doesn't have keyboards, or use them incorrectly. Was that intolerant enough? ;D

I have a strong dislike to groups who massacre "The Logical Song", and "Cold As Ice"... >:(
Title: Re: Bands you hate
Post by: Moonloop on Mon, 2005-09-19, 16:31:52
Scissor Sisters. Grr  >:(

Title: Re: Bands you hate
Post by: Higgins III on Mon, 2005-09-19, 23:46:30
Quote from: Deenfan on Mon, 2005-09-19, 01:30:18
To the two last posters: You have both funny misspellings in your avatar texts..

That would be because we both know eachother. We have both known eachother for a good 5 years now and its because we are the younger generation who are now inclined to talk in short hand modern bull shit. Its crap. I prefer speaking so everyone can understand me. Otherwise there is no point in telling anoyone anything at all

But yes im glad you notice i will be correcting it..................when i can be bothered
Title: Re: Bands you hate
Post by: Deenfan on Tue, 2005-09-20, 00:29:46
 :D
Title: Re: Bands you hate
Post by: Moonloop on Tue, 2005-09-20, 08:41:21
Quote from: Higgins III on Mon, 2005-09-19, 23:46:30
........when i can be bothered

Ah....indeed a true sign of the younger generation  ;D  :D

(I remember when I had time not to be able to be bothered with things. Erm, well, you know what I mean......)
Title: Re: Bands you hate
Post by: Xanxtuary on Wed, 2005-09-21, 00:29:13
OK, this is not a specific band I hate but more a sort of genre.  I call it "shopping list music" or "wallpaper music".  I don't suppose I am the first to coin those terms, but I do like to make good use of them.  This type of music is barely worthy of the name because it is so unappealing and uninteresting that it has all the charm of a dog-eared shopping list that has been at the bottom of my handbag for the past six centuries or the attention-grabbing qualities of peeling, faded wallpaper that has been around since the stuff was invented ... the wallpaper that is, not the music.  This type of music is often performed by "boy-blands" or plastic Barbie-doll types and its main purpose is to generate revenue for recording companies/producers/managers rather than sound even remotely interesting. Thus I rest my case.

I think that's 150 words ... but mathematics has never been my strong point!  ???
Title: Re: Bands you hate
Post by: Deenfan on Wed, 2005-09-21, 03:29:29
It's the mix of math and english that makes it so hard... ;)
Title: Re: Bands you hate
Post by: Constable Hogweed on Wed, 2005-09-21, 22:44:34
 Iiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii I hate Oasis
( And before anyone starts I is a word - oh well thats  one hundred and fifty eight now. no make that one hundred and sixty seven.....hang about make that......Oh feck this for a game of soldiers  ;D
Title: Re: Bands you hate
Post by: keyboardistmatt on Wed, 2005-09-21, 23:48:20
Welcome back Hogweed, been a while...!? :)
Title: Re: Bands you hate
Post by: Deenfan on Thu, 2005-09-22, 01:24:51
Anyone hating Oasis is welcome, really...
Title: Re: Bands you hate
Post by: Appelmoes?? on Thu, 2005-09-22, 12:26:01
I first couldn't think of a band I hate, but Oasis is a good candidate come to think of it.

" 'Cos maybeeeeeeeeeeeeeeh"

Aaaaargh!!! >:(
Title: Re: Bands you hate
Post by: Constable Hogweed on Thu, 2005-09-22, 19:26:07
Quote from: keyboardistmatt on Wed, 2005-09-21, 23:48:20
Welcome back Hogweed, been a while...!? :)

I do sneak around here regularly, just don't always post Matt.  :)
Title: Re: Bands you hate
Post by: Vanderwoude on Wed, 2005-10-05, 16:18:52
I hate slipknot (who doesn't)

Their lyrics are really violent, dangerous for society. And they tell horifiing things in interviews. It's a pity that that kind of bands still excists
Title: Re: Bands you hate
Post by: Appelmoes?? on Wed, 2005-10-05, 16:26:21
It's just their sick way of getting attention. Don't give them that and bands like that slowly fade away. Look at Marilyn Manson, You never hear from him again nowadays. I think they are using the decay in modern society to get better of it  instead of trying to stop it with their musical gifts. really a shame.
Title: Re: Bands you hate
Post by: Vanderwoude on Wed, 2005-10-05, 16:38:57
Quote from: Appelmoes?? on Wed, 2005-10-05, 16:26:21
It's just their sick way of getting attention. Don't give them that and bands like that slowly fade away. Look at Marilyn Manson, You never hear from him again nowadays. I think they are using the decay in modern society to get better of it  instead of trying to stop it with their musical gifts. really a shame.

Yes you're right. It's a shame that 'we' give them that attention. Society could benefit from people who talk about love and peace, and in the past it was like that sometimes. But nowadays, people seem to prefer the 'bad behaviour.' >:(
Title: Re: Bands you hate
Post by: PH on Wed, 2005-10-05, 17:10:00
You mentioned Slipknot and Marilyn Manson, but I'd like to add Black Sabbath and Ozzy Osbourne to the total.
That guy is really 'not clever'. A high Aleister Crowly quality. (Which is, in fact, no quality at all...) I've seen a 3 hour documentary about that freak.
Title: Re: Bands you hate
Post by: Vanderwoude on Wed, 2005-10-05, 17:22:10
Quote from: PH on Wed, 2005-10-05, 17:10:00
You mentioned Slipknot and Marilyn Manson, but I'd like to add Black Sabbath and Ozzy Osbourne to the total.
That guy is really 'not clever'. A high Aleister Crowly quality. (Which is, in fact, no quality at all...) I've seen a 3 hour documentary about that freak.

Who? Osbourne ore Crowly? or both.
About Osbourne: that guy isn't really dangerous anymore. He looked like a complete fool in his tv series, and nobody takes him seriously anymore. I don't know much about Crowly, that doesn't mean he isn't dangerous, because maybe he's got much influence on others. Maybe I should watch that documentary  :-\
Title: Re: Bands you hate
Post by: Teunis on Wed, 2005-10-05, 18:36:16
Not especially a band, but I hate rapping, like Ali B. Look at TMF or MTV and most of the time you see this crap. It's not singing, but TALKING and I HATE IT!. But it seems to be popular. They earn their money easier than I do :D. In 10 years you don't hear this pulp anymore, prog wil live forever!
Title: Re: Bands you hate
Post by: Wilford Jr. on Wed, 2005-10-05, 18:40:30
Quote from: Teunis on Wed, 2005-10-05, 18:36:16
Not especially a band, but I hate rapping, like Ali B. Look at TMF or MTV and most of the time you see this crap. It's not singing, but TALKING and I HATE IT!. But it seems to be popular. They earn their money easier than I do :D. In 10 years you don't hear this pulp anymore, prog wil live forever!

I have to agree.  I don't like rap very much but it does seem to be popular.  I wonder if the majority of people actually listen to what is being said, or they just buy it because it is what all the "cool" people are listening to nowadays.
Title: Re: Bands you hate
Post by: Vanderwoude on Wed, 2005-10-05, 18:52:25
I like rapmusic from some artist, for example Kanye West, (with influences from other styles, which I like) but I have to agree, that the lyrics usually are crap. (There are songs with interesting lyrics though). And rap artist tend to act in a popular way, they try to be 'players' or 'pimps' and stuff, and that is what I hate the most.
Title: Re: Bands you hate
Post by: Spad on Wed, 2005-10-05, 18:53:37
Quote from: PH on Wed, 2005-10-05, 17:10:00
You mentioned Slipknot and Marilyn Manson, but I'd like to add Black Sabbath and Ozzy Osbourne to the total.
That guy is really 'not clever'. A high Aleister Crowly quality. (Which is, in fact, no quality at all...) I've seen a 3 hour documentary about that freak.


... no, no, no... I'm sorry but I don't agree at all.  ;)  As I told in another post about Neal Morse and his christian-prog-rock, I don't care about what an artist sing in his songs and even less I care about what he's doing in his private life..... The only thing that cares for me is music! Just music!

So I really love mastepiece like Diary Of A Madman or Paranoid without whose, I think, contemporary rock would not be what it is!! At the same way I love other side of lyrics as Morse's Testimony or One.....

But maybe, in this post, we're taking about "hate" against bands in general, besides the musical aspect...... in this case, I apology.... anyone is, of course, free to think and say anything about Ozzy..... but if we're taking about music, I think we have to take care about what Ozzy & co. gave to the music world in the last 3 decades....  :D  :D

Bye.
Spad.


Title: Re: Bands you hate
Post by: Vanderwoude on Wed, 2005-10-05, 19:02:35
For me lyrics aren't holy to, I do enjoy them sometimes, though, but I listen often to music with simple lyrics. But I don't like to listen to music which is rude in anyway. I believe some music can do damage to certain people and I don't want to help in spreading it, and I don't want to pay for it.
Title: Re: Bands you hate
Post by: PH on Wed, 2005-10-05, 19:19:02
Quote from: Spad on Wed, 2005-10-05, 18:53:37

... no, no, no... I'm sorry but I don't agree at all.  ;)  As I told in another post about Neal Morse and his christian-prog-rock, I don't care about what an artist sing in his songs and even less I care about what he's doing in his private life..... The only thing that cares for me is music! Just music!

So I really love mastepiece like Diary Of A Madman or Paranoid without whose, I think, contemporary rock would not be what it is!! At the same way I love other side of lyrics as Morse's Testimony or One.....

But maybe, in this post, we're taking about "hate" against bands in general, besides the musical aspect...... in this case, I apology.... anyone is, of course, free to think and say anything about Ozzy..... but if we're taking about music, I think we have to take care about what Ozzy & co. gave to the music world in the last 3 decades....  :D  :D

Bye.
Spad.




There are differences in what people sing.
If an artist sings about having sex with animals for example, I don't want to listen to that. If the music is really cool, but the lyrics are really bad, I won't listen to it. For me, music is often related with the lyrics.

I know Ozzy's background and therefore I won't listen to his music, 'cos in his lyrics he shows us bad things.
I know Neil's background and in his lyrics he doesn't show us bad things, so I can listen to it.

And that's got nothing to do with the fact that I'm a Christian, I know people who aren't religious but still don't like that sort of music.

Oh and about the rap.
rap=crap
In my opinion. ;D

It's the easiest way of music.
And I think Progrock is the difficult way of music, therefore I like it. Somebody has done something for it.

Example: When Pink Floyd was touring, their performances costed more money than the proceeds could come up with. They cared for their music. Rappers often don't even know what their last song was about.
Title: Re: Bands you hate
Post by: Wilford Jr. on Wed, 2005-10-05, 21:33:32
Quote from: PH on Wed, 2005-10-05, 19:19:02
There are differences in what people sing.
If an artist sings about having sex with animals for example, I don't want to listen to that. If the music is really cool, but the lyrics are really bad, I won't listen to it. For me, music is often related with the lyrics.

I agree with that!  While there is a lot of excellent instrumental prog music, for me th elyrics are VERY important.  I don't want to deal with lyrics that are too negative or feed into hatred of other groups, religions, etc.



Oh and about the rap.
rap=crap
In my opinion. ;D

It's the easiest way of music.
And I think Progrock is the difficult way of music, therefore I like it. Somebody has done something for it.



I have to agree with this also :)
Title: Re: Bands you hate
Post by: keyboardistmatt on Wed, 2005-10-05, 22:15:44
Quote from: PH on Wed, 2005-10-05, 19:19:02
I know Ozzy's background and therefore I won't listen to his music, 'cos in his lyrics he shows us bad things.

And that would be that same with ANY music genre, whatever the genre, will it not?

The bad things may just be telling the story... :)

Title: Re: Bands you hate
Post by: PH on Thu, 2005-10-06, 07:37:23
Quote from: keyboardistmatt on Wed, 2005-10-05, 22:15:44
And that would be that same with ANY music genre, whatever the genre, will it not?

The bad things may just be telling the story... :)



yup
Title: Re: Bands you hate
Post by: Emilia on Thu, 2005-10-06, 10:04:57
I won't give you any specific names..cos the list is too long heeee  ;D
but all that play stuff like RAP, HIP-HOP, house, techno, and such do not exist for me as musicians, anyone dares to call THAT music after all????
Emilia.
Title: Re: Bands you hate
Post by: PH on Thu, 2005-10-06, 12:17:27
Quote from: Emilia on Thu, 2005-10-06, 10:04:57anyone dares to call THAT music after all????
Emilia.

You just answered your own question... ;D
Title: Re: Bands you hate
Post by: Appelmoes?? on Thu, 2005-10-06, 12:27:11
It's music, but very, very unoriginal music.
Title: Re: Bands you hate
Post by: Emilia on Thu, 2005-10-06, 12:28:40
that's very very... original answer  ;D
E.
Title: Re: Bands you hate
Post by: Appelmoes?? on Thu, 2005-10-06, 12:29:37
Now I could say something about your reply :P
Title: Re: Bands you hate
Post by: Emilia on Thu, 2005-10-06, 12:37:48
Guess, this would be a big compliment....  ;) cos mine was.
Title: Re: Bands you hate
Post by: Vanderwoude on Thu, 2005-10-06, 15:02:21
Quote from: Appelmoes?? on Thu, 2005-10-06, 12:27:11
It's music, but very, very unoriginal music.

Yes, I think that's the problem with most of todays popular music, maybe nice to listen to ('but not for too long') but definitely unoriginal.
Title: Re: Bands you hate
Post by: Higgins III on Sun, 2005-10-09, 01:02:10
Attention seekers >:( Obnoxious

Again i don't know weather i spelt that right.
Title: Re: Bands you hate
Post by: keyboardistmatt on Sun, 2005-10-09, 19:04:00
Quote from: Emilia on Thu, 2005-10-06, 10:04:57
I won't give you any specific names..cos the list is too long heeee  ;D
but all that play stuff like RAP, HIP-HOP, house, techno, and such do not exist for me as musicians, anyone dares to call THAT music after all????
Emilia.

I've looked into this sort of thing before for myself.  In fairness, there are people from the various genres you have listed there who actually are musicians.  This applies especially to the DJ culture.  True, many of these DJ's spend much of their time behind a set of 'decks', but these people can play instruments, and write music.  Paul Oakenfold, for instance writes film scores, and 'Fatboy Slim' used to play bass in the 80's combo 'The Housemartins'.

I guess I'm trying to say, maybe you should check these things out for yourself before you start jumping to conclusions... ;)

Just a thought. :)
Title: Re: Bands you hate
Post by: PH on Sun, 2005-10-09, 19:06:57
Quote from: keyboardistmatt on Sun, 2005-10-09, 19:04:00
I've looked into this sort of thing before for myself.  In fairness, there are people from the various genres you have listed there who actually are musicians.  This applies especially to the DJ culture.  True, many of these DJ's spend much of their time behind a set of 'decks', but these people can play instruments, and write music.  Paul Oakenfold, for instance writes film scores, and 'Fatboy Slim' used to play bass in the 80's combo 'The Housemartins'.

I guess I'm trying to say, maybe you should check these things out for yourself before you start jumping to conclusions... ;)

Just a thought. :)

Could be, but the music they make (DJ) is not really music, it's mixing.
Title: Re: Bands you hate
Post by: keyboardistmatt on Sun, 2005-10-09, 19:22:34
Quote from: PH on Sun, 2005-10-09, 19:06:57
Could be, but the music they make (DJ) is not really music, it's mixing.

Yeah, but the music they are mixing has to come from somewhere... :)
Title: Re: Bands you hate
Post by: PH on Sun, 2005-10-09, 19:39:30
Quote from: keyboardistmatt on Sun, 2005-10-09, 19:22:34
Yeah, but the music they are mixing has to come from somewhere... :)
Existing music. Plagiarism with a twist.
Title: Re: Bands you hate
Post by: Vanderwoude on Sun, 2005-10-09, 19:48:58
Why so negative about DJs? There really is dance/trance music which contains most elementes, you say, come from 'good music.' I can feel the same emotions in trance as I do with good prog. rock. The difference is that DJs make their music with decks and computer. And yes, I believe that there are DJs who put their music together in a short period. But there are also enough who put loads of time in it. I admit that a DJ on a party is really not nescesarry though. They only put different tracks together. And often they are showing off the rest of the time.
Title: Re: Bands you hate
Post by: keyboardistmatt on Sun, 2005-10-09, 20:12:55
Quote from: PH on Sun, 2005-10-09, 19:39:30
Existing music. Plagiarism with a twist.

Not at all!  They spend just as much time writing and arranging original music, which is then pressed onto vinyl which is what they mix with.
Title: Re: Bands you hate
Post by: PH on Sun, 2005-10-09, 20:21:20
Quote from: keyboardistmatt on Sun, 2005-10-09, 20:12:55
Not at all!  They spend just as much time writing and arranging original music, which is then pressed onto vinyl which is what they mix with.

We're talking about different kinds of DJs then.
A DJ (Disc Jocky) is someone who puts different discs in a deck.
Title: Re: Bands you hate
Post by: Emilia on Mon, 2005-10-10, 10:57:25
Quote from: keyboardistmatt on Sun, 2005-10-09, 19:04:00

I guess I'm trying to say, maybe you should check these things out for yourself before you start jumping to conclusions... ;)

Just a thought. :)
Ok, agree...but I'm just talking about the most popular and commercial stuff from MTV which reaches most of the people', I do not deny the "underground" scene :) or their tallents.
E.
Title: Re: Bands you hate
Post by: keyboardistmatt on Mon, 2005-10-10, 15:09:07
Quote from: PH on Sun, 2005-10-09, 20:21:20
We're talking about different kinds of DJs then.
A DJ (Disc Jocky) is someone who puts different discs in a deck.
I'm under the impression that we are talking about the kind of DJ who gets into the charts, and plays to the masses in Ibiza... Not a radio-style DJ...? ;)

Quote from: Emilia on Mon, 2005-10-10, 10:57:25
Ok, agree...but I'm just talking about the most popular and commercial stuff from MTV which reaches most of the people', I do not deny the "underground" scene :) or their tallents.
E.
Fair enough! :)



WOW!  Is it me, of have we just witnessed a musical debate in this forum?? ;D

Title: Re: Bands you hate
Post by: PH on Mon, 2005-10-10, 15:36:12
Quote from: keyboardistmatt on Mon, 2005-10-10, 15:09:07I'm under the impression that we are talking about the kind of DJ who gets into the charts, and plays to the masses in Ibiza... Not a radio-style DJ...? ;)

A DJ is a DJ.
If you mean something else by it, you should name it different.
Title: Re: Bands you hate
Post by: Moonloop on Mon, 2005-10-10, 15:51:58
Quote from: PH on Mon, 2005-10-10, 15:36:12
A DJ is a DJ.
If you mean something else by it, you should name it different.

Both are in common useage though - it's a quirk of the English language and I don't think any individual has the authority to rename something simply because they're getting confused  ;)  . eg:

Fly : (n) a winged insect
Fly : (v) to move through the air with the aid of wings
Fly : (n) Slang term for an area of a gentlemans trousers

(spoke too soon about the musical discussion Matt  ;D  ;D )

;D


Title: Re: Bands you hate
Post by: PH on Mon, 2005-10-10, 16:17:14
Quote from: Moonloop on Mon, 2005-10-10, 15:51:58
Both are in common useage though - it's a quirk of the English language and I don't think any individual has the authority to rename something simply because they're getting confused  ;)  . eg:

Fly : (n) a winged insect
Fly : (v) to move through the air with the aid of wings
Fly : (n) Slang term for an area of a gentlemans trousers

(spoke too soon about the musical discussion Matt  ;D  ;D )

;D

Sorry, but I have to disagree with you.

It is connected.
A fly is called a fly because it can fly.
Don't know about the gentlemans trousers though.

A DJ was just a man who put different musics on in a disco. But they thought they could do better and mixed a lot of music (mixing their own playing in it too). But it still was a DJ.

Same goes for a rapper.
Originally a rapper was someone who encouraged the audience to dance and sing and clap. "Come on yo dance!" you know what I mean.
Hence the MC for MC Hammer. MC stands for Master of Ceremony.
It's like an presentator.
Title: Re: Bands you hate
Post by: keyboardistmatt on Mon, 2005-10-10, 20:46:04
Quote from: PH on Mon, 2005-10-10, 16:17:14
Sorry, but I have to disagree with you.

It is connected.
A fly is called a fly because it can fly.
Don't know about the gentlemans trousers though.

A DJ was just a man who put different musics on in a disco. But they thought they could do better and mixed a lot of music (mixing their own playing in it too). But it still was a DJ.

That's exactly what is being said.

Fly= insect
Fly= to move through the air with the aid of wings
Fly= <Slang> Zipper on trouser crotch.

DJ= A person who plays a continuous set of songs at a party or nightclub.
DJ= A radio presenter.
DJ= A person professionally involved in the creation of new music by mixing different elements (i.e.: recordings of different instruments or 'samples') together.
Title: Re: Bands you hate
Post by: PH on Mon, 2005-10-10, 21:32:55
Quote from: keyboardistmatt on Mon, 2005-10-10, 20:46:04
That's exactly what is being said.

Fly= insect
Fly= to move through the air with the aid of wings
Fly= <Slang> Zipper on trouser crotch.

DJ= A person who plays a continuous set of songs at a party or nightclub.
DJ= A radio presenter.
DJ= A person professionally involved in the creation of new music by mixing different elements (i.e.: recordings of different instruments or 'samples') together.

A fly is connected to flying.
A zipper is also (more or less) connected to flying (flying through your zipper)

1. A Disc Jockey is a  person who plays a continuous set of songs at a party or nightclub. He is no musician.
2. The other DJ (presenter) does the same thing as the above and can therefore be named the same. He isn't a musician either.

3. But a DJ (as in Dance/Trance/Hardcore etc) doesn't do the same as above. He mixes his own music. The term 'DJ' doesn't fit.

If you want to call him a DJ, he can't be called a musician. Do you want to call him a musician, he can't be called a DJ.


A 3-DJ existed when DJs from the 1's and 2's thought about mixing the music (with a bit of their own).
Actually you can call these people 'mixers'. ;)


Man, it's difficult to make yourself clear in English (which is not my native language...)
Title: Re: Bands you hate
Post by: keyboardistmatt on Mon, 2005-10-10, 22:08:37
The point is... :-\

the term "DJ" really, really, absolutely, most definitely,  IS valid for all of those mentioned descriptions.

In the English language, the term "DJ" does mean any one of these descriptions:

DJ= A person who plays a continuous set of songs at a party or nightclub. ;D
DJ= A radio presenter. ;D
DJ= A person professionally involved in the creation of new music by mixing different elements (i.e.: recordings of different instruments or 'samples') together. ;D

It's true!! whether you agree or not!!   PLEASE!!!  IT'S TRUE!!!!!!!!! :D
Title: Re: Bands you hate
Post by: PH on Mon, 2005-10-10, 22:16:18
I believe you.

But...
Oh well... Sorry, Forget it... :-[

I hate DJ's.
I hate rap.

As for the rest, I don't care, as long as it is music and it sounds good, it's OK.
Personally I like original music.

As with cars. Every car looks the same.
Luckily there are the New Beatle, Mini Cooper and Crysler cars, which are very original. The rest looks the same.

Just like music.
Luckily there are Arena, Porcupine Tree, and Genesis: luckily there's music-genre which is called 'Progressive', which are very original. The rest sounds the same.
Title: Re: Bands you hate
Post by: Peter on Mon, 2005-10-10, 22:38:43
Hmmm, maybe I'd also like to add something now.

Basicall, I don't hate any band. There are many I don't like, because of silly/childish/stupid/whatever music, some I may grin about, some make me frown, but hate... nah, wasted energy. I tend to use my energy to enjoy the bands I actually do like.

And then there is a second thing that one should never forget. Someone already told me (was it on this forum...?) that it doesn't play a role, but for me it does: There's always (well, more or less) people behind what you hear. They have spent blood, sweat and tears (hmmm....) to produce the music. And the fact that there are people who buy their CDs and/or that they get airplay is reason enough for them to feel proud of what they do. Not everyone necessarily needs to like it, that's impossible. And if you don't like it, turn it off...

Think positive :)
Title: Re: Bands you hate
Post by: keyboardistmatt on Mon, 2005-10-10, 22:52:12
Thankyou.
Title: Re: Bands you hate
Post by: PH on Tue, 2005-10-11, 07:29:33
Quote from: Peter on Mon, 2005-10-10, 22:38:43
Hmmm, maybe I'd also like to add something now.

Basicall, I don't hate any band. There are many I don't like, because of silly/childish/stupid/whatever music, some I may grin about, some make me frown, but hate... nah, wasted energy. I tend to use my energy to enjoy the bands I actually do like.

And then there is a second thing that one should never forget. Someone already told me (was it on this forum...?) that it doesn't play a role, but for me it does: There's always (well, more or less) people behind what you hear. They have spent blood, sweat and tears (hmmm....) to produce the music. And the fact that there are people who buy their CDs and/or that they get airplay is reason enough for them to feel proud of what they do. Not everyone necessarily needs to like it, that's impossible. And if you don't like it, turn it off...

Think positive :)

Yup, hate is a big word.
But this topic is called 'Bands you hate', soooo.....

I dislike rap.
For the rest, there are some good music over there in this brave new world.
Title: Re: Bands you hate
Post by: Emilia on Tue, 2005-10-11, 08:21:45
Ok, so maybe we should change the topic for "the bands you dislike" or "the music you dislike" to take it more impersonnally 'cos there is always people behind the music, their sweat and tears and so on...

Personnally, I do not believe ALL music is created with great commitment, emotion and good intention (but OK, even this kind of music works for some people - I do not deny it).

You know.. there is a guy in Poland who used to play hard rock but as went down in popularity with rock music he turned to recording dico albums which brought him onto the top charts in Poland. He overtly admitted he "dislikes" dico but makes it only for the money because he has to make his living somehow...... OK, maybe his intentions are right but I do not believe in such music ... and If people buy his CDs ok, it means there is a great demand for it ...maybe more than for rock music.

What I am trying to say is that such "musicians" who treat MUSIC only as a consummable "product" which shall  be trown into a litterbin after it 's used and worn out do not have my respect and I have a feeling that with CERTAIN kind of music this product-oriented approach is more common and obvious (or maybe I'm imaginin' something?)

E.
Title: Re: Bands you hate
Post by: Peter on Tue, 2005-10-11, 10:30:50
Agreed, Emilia.
Title: Re: Bands you hate
Post by: Wilford Jr. on Tue, 2005-10-11, 17:29:28
Quote from: Emilia on Tue, 2005-10-11, 08:21:45
Ok, so maybe we should change the topic for "the bands you dislike" or "the music you dislike" to take it more impersonnally 'cos there is always people behind the music, their sweat and tears and so on...

Personnally, I do not believe ALL music is created with great commitment, emotion and good intention (but OK, even this kind of music works for some people - I do not deny it).

What I am trying to say is that such "musicians" who treat MUSIC only as a consummable "product" which shall  be trown into a litterbin after it 's used and worn out do not have my respect and I have a feeling that with CERTAIN kind of music this product-oriented approach is more common and obvious (or maybe I'm imaginin' something?)

E.

I agree!!!  I like to believe that there are musicians out there who would record their music even if they made little or no money on it.  They would be doing it out of a need to share their thoughts, hopes, and dreams.  Does this sound a little niave on my part?
Title: Re: Bands you hate
Post by: sammi on Tue, 2006-01-10, 02:59:00
Ok so there has been things said bout there being bad things said in songs i have a queston and im sorry if it's a stupid one but are people really influenced (sorry bout my really bad spellings) by it all is that why there is and whole new socity of yobs, discrimination, if so is it mainly the younger people that are "fooled" by music. i hope this make sence. but back on topic i hate westlife so i won't listen to them. if you don't like you don't have to listen to it
Title: Re: Bands you hate
Post by: PH on Tue, 2006-01-10, 07:47:28
I'm not exactly sure what you mean by "society of jobs and discrimination". But sure, some peopole get influenced by some music. And I think it's also true that younger people are victim of that.

Music changes a person emotionally.
Some music can make you happy, other music can make you sad.
For me, Arena is the most depressing music I ever heard. Everytime I listen to it, I feel really down. But when I'm done listening to it, it's over. Some people still feel down after they stopped listening to it.

I think it's GREAT that music can change you like that. If you're hit by a song emotionally, it means that the song has something. Most music can't get you that far. But still you have to be careful.


That was about the musical aspect of 'influence'.
There's also the lyrical side.

But I don't really believe in lyrics influencing people.
If I listen to Eminem talking (not singing) about suicide, I won't think "Well... I'm gonna kill myself then!". Some people will think that, but that depends on their own mental abilities. (Or rather disabilities).

It's the same as blaming videogames for people to kill other people. If you say you get influenced by videogames, than it's your problem and not the problem of the videogame.


But to conclusion now.

I still won't listen to music with 'bad' lyrics, 'cause I dislike it anyway.
I don't like listening to "kill you parents", or "Satan is master" or "f**k yo granny" or...

You see what I mean?
Title: Re: Bands you hate
Post by: Wilford Jr. on Thu, 2006-01-12, 22:48:35
Quote from: PH on Tue, 2006-01-10, 07:47:28


But to conclusion now.

I still won't listen to music with 'bad' lyrics, 'cause I dislike it anyway.
I don't like listening to "kill you parents", or "Satan is master" or "f**k yo granny" or...

You see what I mean?

I agree with you.  I won't listen to music that promotes hatred of other groups of people or other things.  There is too much hatred and other very negative emotions in the world already.
Title: Re: Bands you hate
Post by: Appelmoes?? on Thu, 2006-01-12, 23:00:18
Quote from: sammi on Tue, 2006-01-10, 02:59:00
Ok so there has been things said bout there being bad things said in songs i have a queston and im sorry if it's a stupid one but are people really influenced (sorry bout my really bad spellings) by it all is that why there is and whole new socity of yobs, discrimination, if so is it mainly the younger people that are "fooled" by music. i hope this make sence. but back on topic i hate westlife so i won't listen to them. if you don't like you don't have to listen to it
I don't think it's the music that is "fooling" the younger people, but society, and the musics reflects of how society is thinking atm. Still it's stupid people let themselves be influenced by music. I normaly check out a band before I go buy their albums.
Title: Re: Bands you hate
Post by: Smegal on Fri, 2006-01-13, 04:45:43
I hate this band called Arena if you've ever heard of them!!

Oh shit wrong forum i mean i hate The Monkeys

Oh know thats the same people isn't it i get so confused
Title: Re: Bands you hate
Post by: keyboardistmatt on Wed, 2006-01-18, 22:53:58
Quote from: Smegal on Fri, 2006-01-13, 04:45:43
I hate this band called Arena if you've ever heard of them!!

Oh shit wrong forum i mean i hate The Monkeys

Oh know thats the same people isn't it i get so confused

How can you hate The Monkeys??

Nobody hates the Monkeys, man! 8)