Ok;
From the Muse thread, there seems to be some debate about Queen. I think this should have its own thread...
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I was brought up on a selection of bands including Queen. As such, I really, really like them! I don't have all of their albums, but the ones I do have I really love. I think Queen were one of the greatest bands ever.
So...
Debate!!! *horns* 8) ;)
I think Queen was a good band that had some terrific moments. I actually do like Bohemian Rhapsody quite a bit. Unfortunately (well not so unfortunate for them since they sold a lot of records), they are a prime example of a band that probably had more to offer that had a few particular songs played to death on American radio, so I tend to be tired of them even though I'd probably enjoy hearing some of their less-played stuff. Sort of the same thing that holds true for me with the Beatles, only not as extreme (and there are a ton of Beatles songs that got played to death).
Definitely among my favorite bands 8). I own these albums: A Night At The Opera, A Kind Of Magic, Live Magic, The Miracle, Innuendo, Greatest Hits and Made In Heaven. We always take the latter one with us while on holidays, even my wife loves it *horns*. And I own the 'Live at the Wembley Stadium DVD, very cool to watch. What a performer Freddie was. Especially at the track 'Love of my Life', the interaction with the audience, goosebumps! The album/gigs with Paul Rodgers were not Queen anymore imo.
I hardly need to add more, but since Queen interest me a lot, and I like a good exchange, guess I have to dish up somethin here.
OK, let's start with some general observations: 30 years ago, there was a much closer correlation between quality and popularity than there is today !
Practically speaking, first Beatles, Stones, Who, and Bob Dylan
were top-league, in terms of quality and creativity,
and they were extremely popular. Then came the next generation: Floyd, Genesis, Zep, Doors, Steppenwolf, and several more; and they were also very popular. With Floyd and Genesis, took some time tho. And already in this generation, there arose bands that remained prog/cult and never attained broad popularity, e.g. Yes and King Crimson. After that, it became more and more such that the best groups remained under the radar in terms of the general media. Takin the prog flagship DT, I reckon that in Denmark, about 1% of the population listen to'm. (With Beatles, that was close to 100% in the 60's and 70's.)
And today, in serious music circles (like the Room), it's almost an emblem of quality for a group if they'r
not played and not mentioned in the general media (take e.g. Sieges Even and SubSignal - these days, there's a discussion in Wiki about whether there should be an article about SubSignal at all (of course there should be a Wiki-article)).
So, times have really changed drastically. One has to understand this.
Yes, definitely Queen
were top-league; they were talented, genuine, creative, progressive, all that, just like Floyd, Genesis, Zep, and all the other groups we still love !
With time, even our young Roomies will realise this, I'm sure ;) :)
Quote from: Teunis on Sat, 2009-10-17, 10:10:34
... Made In Heaven. We always take the latter one with us while on holidays, even my wife loves it *horns*.
It's wonderful, isnt it, Teunis ? *horns*
You should get Sheer Heart Attack too. This one and Heaven are
my two Queen faves 8)
Nicky.
Time for some petrol?
I don't care much about Queen. Some times, when I hear a song on the radio, I think "This isn't too bad", but "Bohemian Rhapsody" is idiotic. I saw the original and thought it was the parody. As such, why not go all the way? I quite enjoy the "Bad News" version. The full comedy potential of the song is allowed to blossom. Wonderful.
Good? ;D
Guess some people aint grown up with 37 ::)
Deenie, you shouldnt make any general statements about Queen on the basis of some hits that'v been played in the radio.
Play Queen II-V thru a coupl'o times, and also listen to some of the fabulous stuff that Brian May does on his guitar .....
..... and then we'l start talkin as grown-ups ;)
(You can take it, you b*d !) ;D
Nicky.
Quote from: Deenfan on Sat, 2009-10-17, 19:26:09
Time for some petrol?
I don't care much about Queen. Some times, when I hear a song on the radio, I think "This isn't too bad", but "Bohemian Rhapsody" is idiotic. I saw the original and thought it was the parody. As such, why not go all the way? I quite enjoy the "Bad News" version. The full comedy potential of the song is allowed to blossom. Wonderful.
Good? ;D
Deenfan, you're the man. 8)
:D
I expect to to be a person who's opinion is irrelevant about this particular matter . :-*
Well, if anything else... i might as well put some bright shiny words in here.
Like i already said, as a performer Freddy Mercury, tragically, was a very good artist.
As a singer however, not.
And that has got nothing to do with the fact that he's dead or not, it's just how it is.
As for the music of Queen: There are some pretty good moments during the rather big career of Queen and i have to admit that they had potential (like that word) but to me, they weren't the big band people said they were.
Sure, Brain May is a good guitarist but his style is too omnipresent for my taste. Listen to his work on the first album and you know how he plays on the last album.
The same goes for statue John Deacon and Roger Taylor, who supposed to be a drummer but every time i see him play, I just simply can't imagine him as a drummer. It just doesn't fit the picture.
Funny thing is though, that although i don't really care for Queen, i do care for a few bands who are somewhat influenced by Queen, like Shadow Gallery or since The Resistance, Muse.
How weird can life be. :-\
I hope i wasn't that harsh about Queen.
And i also hope that i still can walk the streets in my home town without being shot to death. :-[ ;)
Quote from: maddox on Sat, 2009-10-17, 22:14:59
... Roger Taylor, who is supposed to be a drummer, but every time i see him play, I just simply can't imagine him as a drummer. It just doesn't fit the picture.
You sure have some imagination, Mad ::)
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And i also hope that i still can walk the streets in my home town without being shot to death. :-[ ;)
I don't even know your last name, or which town ya live in, Mad; I only know that you live somewhere in the marsh. But if I ask the Netherlands National Radio to blast out Bohemian Rhapsody, it might do the trick ;D
Nicky.
My location is hidden underneath this link. ;) (http://maps.google.nl/maps?client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla:nl:official&channel=s&hl=nl&source=hp&q=vianen+ut+map&um=1&ie=UTF-8&hq=&hnear=Vianen&gl=nl&ei=1C_aSuSMNMms4QaD1pDSCA&sa=X&oi=geocode_result&ct=title&resnum=1&ved=0CAoQ8gEwAA)
This might give you an idea of where i live. ;)
Just click on Satellite and zoom either in or out. :D
On the left side of the little river. ;D
OK, so you live right next to Deenie, Mad. He lives in Nieuwegein ;D
Nicky.
Quote from: Nicky007 on Sun, 2009-10-18, 10:13:47
OK, so you live right next to Deenie, Mad. He lives in Nieuwegein ;D
Nicky.
Yeah, just a little bit to the North. ;D
This is mad...
Quote from: Deenfan on Sun, 2009-10-18, 11:14:27
This is mad...
You mean 'slightly mad' since its a topic about Queen. ;)
And we're back on topic, gents. :D
I really like Queen! 8)
Not really a debate from my side, but at least I've said something... ;)
Tom
Quote from: Nicky007 on Sun, 2009-10-18, 21:08:23
Yeah, it's the Room ;)
Nicky.
Like i already said: And we're back on topic gents. :P :D
Quote from: maddox on Sun, 2009-10-18, 21:11:06
Like i already said: And we're back on topic gents. :P :D
Hey Mad, you and Deenie may be queenie, but I
aint. So leave me
off-topic >:(
;D
Nicky.
Queen II - One of the best albums ever. Period. There is no further debate ;D
Quote from: Deenfan on Sat, 2009-10-17, 19:26:09
I saw the original and thought it was the parody. As such, why not go all the way? I quite enjoy the "Bad News" version. The full comedy potential of the song is allowed to blossom. Wonderful.
Good? ;D
Oh dear!!! :-\ ::)
Quote from: maddox on Sat, 2009-10-17, 22:14:59
Like i already said, as a performer Freddy Mercury, tragically, was a very good artist.
As a singer however, not.
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Sure, Brain May is a good guitarist but his style is too omnipresent for my taste. Listen to his work on the first album and you know how he plays on the last album.
The same goes for statue John Deacon...
How can you say that about Freddie!? He had one of the best singing voices out there! Just listen to his performance in Wembley, 1986! There's barely a note out of place.
Brian May is a far better guitarist than most people would give him credit for... he has a certain style for Queen, but you can almost feel the restraint on his playing, that is until "Ressurection"!
John Deacon is known to be one of the best bassists in that particular field. His bass lines vary from solid and heavy, to intricate and nimble. There are some nice wandering basslines as well.
:)
Quote from: johninblack on Mon, 2009-10-19, 08:27:58
Queen II - One of the best albums ever. Period. There is no further debate ;D
I prefer Innuendo myself! ;)
One of course must set off some leisure time, and just let the music carry one away. But how better to spend one's time than with wonderful music ? - and Queen have made some of the best.
Certainly some of it is overdone, like parts of Bohemian Rhapsody (Freddy was queen in at least two senses), and Roger Taylor's songs are rather standard; but as you indicate, Matt, Brian May is invariably top-league, and all four guys were really into Queen.
When I say Sheer Heart Attack, I mean Brighton Rock (track 1). That song swept me away. It was an obsession with me.
If you guys get tired of kibbitzin, then give this a run or two: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TdUKi3_QntE
Nicky.
Nobody mentions Jazz ???
It features some classics like Bicycle Race, Fat Bottomed Girls or Don't Stop me Now (a great song IMHO) ?
Fat bottomed girls... Yup, that'll probably be one of their best bumbers numbers. Not that I have ever heard it.
You should : it's as close as power metal as they ever came ;)
My opinion about Queen still stands. ;)
Maybe it's a chemistry thing, i don't know.
It never grabbed me by the .... (<---insert your guess here) and i actually thought some of the songs were quite boring. :-\
Even as a child i never thought that Bohemian Rhapsody was the best track ever.
To me it was and probably still is Stairway To Heaven from an rather strange but rocky band from the U.K. *horns* *horns* *horns* ;)
Deep purple's Child In Time is also great.
Queen's Bohemian Rhapsody however is good, that's true but not out of this world.
Like i said, Innuendo and Who Wants To Live Forever? are better tracks. Way better...
Quote from: maddox on Tue, 2009-10-20, 20:08:00
My opinion about Queen still stands. ;)
Maybe it's a chemistry thing, i don't know.
It never grabbed me by the .... (<---insert your guess here) and i actually thought some of the songs were quite boring. :-\
Even as a child i never thought that Bohemian Rhapsody was the best track ever.
To me it was and probably still is Stairway To Heaven from an rather strange but rocky band from the U.K. *horns* *horns* *horns* ;)
Deep purple's Child In Time is also great.
Queen's Bohemian Rhapsody however is good, that's true but not out of this world.
Like i said, Innuendo and Who Wants To Live Forever? are better tracks. Way better...
That's perfectly acceptable, as long as the musicianship (and showmanship) of the band is recognised.
Naturally, I wouldn't expect anybody to like anything that I like in particular. I would however, expect the band's talent to be recognised.
Quote from: keyboardistmatt on Tue, 2009-10-20, 20:38:41
That's perfectly acceptable, as long as the musicianship (and showmanship) of the band is recognised.
Naturally, I wouldn't expect anybody to like anything that I like in particular. I would however, expect the band's talent to be recognised.
The showmanship is beyond doubt.
Especially Freddy was good in that.
Whether or not you like the leather costumes and other extravaganza clothes is a different question but indeed he was a good performer.
I do have mixed feelings about the other members. In my opinion they weren't as good as Freddy, which is acceptable since he was the singer so thus, the figurehead of the band. And about Roger and John?
Well, maybe i haven't seen enough of Queen to pass a good judgement but they were always standing in the shadow of Brain but certainly of Freddy in particular.
And i've never said that they couldn't play their instruments.
In fact, i also agree that Brain is a very gifted guitarist. Problem is that i don't like his style of playing. And the other two. ...
Like i said, John Deacon is too static on stage and Roger's drumming is below average in my view.
And about talent?
Well, that's a personal thing, don't you think? ;)
For instance, i think that Mike Portnoy has a huge talent.
Other's find him a lumberjack with two sticks in his hands.
Ps> it just occurred to me that i've forgot to mention Radio GaGa.
That song is brilliant!
You like it, or you don't.
Quote from: maddox on Tue, 2009-10-20, 21:13:56
Ps> it just occurred to me that i've forgot to mention Radio GaGa.
That song is brilliant!
You like it, or you don't.
I don't like it at all ... :(
I don't find this discussion worthy of proggies. You guys are just discussing the radio hits.
Did anyone at all play the link to Brighton Rock that I had supplied ???
One of the best facilities of the internet is that we can share music on the net, but this offer seems to have been wasted on you guys :(
Let's discuss some of the best Queen songs, those by Brian May: Brighton Rock, The Prophet's Song, From Father To Son !
Until you guys draw these songs into the picture, I simply can't take your comments seriously :-\
Nicky.
Quote from: Nicky007 on Wed, 2009-10-21, 11:56:51
Let's discuss some of the best Queen songs, those by Brian May: Brighton Rock, The Prophet's Song, From Father To Son !
Fat Bottomed Girls is from Brian May : music and "words" ...
That's not the point, Bups: I don't need Fat Bottomed Girls to make me love Queen (altho literally speaking there could be some logic to it ;D ), but I believe that if Roomies listened to the three pieces that I listed, they would be impressed ;)
The question for Roomies is (adapting Shakespeare): To be or not to be - a kindergarten.
I.e. do we just shout around heedlessly, or do we listen to each other ?
I don't at all mind people having tastes different from mine, but I absolutely do mind people dismissing a great group superficially (like it's also been done here with Ten and Chris Cornell: I provided enuff info and links to give people a proper basis, but they were disregarded ) :(
Nicky.
OK, so if you want a serious discussion about Queen, I would say that you can't resume their whole career to their first three albums.
From what I know and have heard, I would distinguish three periods in their discography :
- the early "hard rock" years, including the three albums that you mentioned ;
- the mid "art rock" period, including albums from A Night At The Opera until The Game ;
- the post 1980 "pop" period, from Hot Space to Made In Haven.
I can tell you that everything I heard from the latter period leaves me cold, at the exception of the Mercury/Bowie duet Under Pressure.
The mid period is way more interesting to my ears, very diverse, adventurous and innovative but I would have to re-listen to all the albums to find out if one of them really grabs me completly.
Form the early period, the only songs I remember are Seven Seas of Rhye (excellent) and Now I'm Here (very good). So if the other songs of that period are of equal or better quality, including the two that you mentioned (Prophet's Song being on ANATO), I should check out for sure !
The only problem being that I don't have a single Queen album on my shelves so far :-[
Quote from: Nicky007 on Wed, 2009-10-21, 16:45:42
That's not the point, Bups: I don't need Fat Bottomed Girls to make me love Queen (altho literally speaking there could be some logic to it ;D ), but I believe that if Roomies listened to the three pieces that I listed, they would be impressed ;)
The question for Roomies is (adapting Shakespeare): To be or not to be - a kindergarten.
I.e. do we just shout around heedlessly, or do we listen to each other ?
I don't at all mind people having tastes different from mine, but I absolutely do mind people dismissing a great group superficially (like it's also been done here with Ten and Chris Cornell: I provided enuff info and links to give people a proper basis, but they were disregarded ) :(
Nicky.
No, nicky: They were not disregarded.
Not by me that is.
You can't be disappointed at me because i haven't said anything about either Ten or Chris Cornel.
I do remember that i was quite positive about Chris but sadly i haven't heard anything of his solo-stuff as of yet so i really can't say anything about that.
Ten, however, i've tried them and i do remember having said that. But the sad thing is that it isn't my thing.
With Queen, well you're partly right.
I don't owe all the albums, only have One Night, Sheer Heart Attack, Day At The Races and two best off albums, so don't consider my opinion as relevant.
I've tried it, and failed to like it.
I can only give my opinion about Queen and not about the albums.
I'm not into hurting people because of their taste.
If i made the wrong jokes about either Ten or CC or Queen then i apologies but my opinion still stands!
I've just managed to catch up.
Me, I love Queen and managed to see them live with the late great Freddie.
I know many people that don't like them and as usual can respect that. All I know is some of the best times I've experienced (e.g. seeing Liverpool win the title albeit many years ago :P) Queen added to the occasion by creating the anthemic we are the champions.
That was better, guys :)
Iggy, nice to hear about your good experiences with Queen and their songs.
Obviously Queen is a mixed bag :-\
The part of their catalog that I generally like best is where Brian May set the order. Those pieces I can listen to again and again. That guy is ingenious *horns*
However, I also like many of Freddie's songs, e.g. Killer Queen and Made In Heaven.
I can recommend Brian's two solo albums Back To The Light and Another World 8)
Quote from: Bupie on Wed, 2009-10-21, 17:43:08
OK, so if you want a serious discussion about Queen, I would say that you can't understand their whole career on the basis of their first three albums alone.
Havent tried that: I have a thorough knowledge of Queen I - V (A Day At The Races). These albums I listened to massively at the time of their releases - and enjoyed them enormously.
Some seven years ago I struck onto Made In Heaven, and that one I'v also enjoyed a lot.
The other albums I'v only listened to sporadically, cause shortly after encountering MIH, I got caught in the boundless progmatrix. (Know what I'm talkin about, Greenie ?) ;D
Quote from: maddox on Wed, 2009-10-21, 20:58:36
You can't be disappointed at me because i haven't said anything about either Ten or Chris Cornell.
:)
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I do remember that i was quite positive about Chris but sadly i haven't heard anything of his solo-stuff
Here I have to upbraid you tho, Mad. I offered a series of links to some of the best recordings of his Euphoria Morning period (under the NP thread, about ½ year ago). I even posted reminders
twice - what more can I do ??? And these were utterly disregarded :(
Thing is that Chris' Euphoria Morning
is a fabulous album, and it
would fall into many Roomies' tastes, I'm sure - I just don't know how to bring this across :-\
Nicky.
Quote from: Nicky007 on Thu, 2009-10-22, 12:27:43
The other albums I'v only listened to sporadically, cause shortly after encountering MIH, I got caught in the boundless progmatrix. (Know what I'm talkin about, Greenie ?) ;D
Thing is that Chris' Euphoria Morning is a fabulous album, and it would fall into many Roomies' tastes, I'm sure - I just don't know how to bring this across :-\
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I know what you mean more than I usually do, but not entirely. ;D
No idea what MIH is, but I assume you're referring to my comment that there are so many things out there to try (now that I have a good source of recommendations) that it's hard to keep up with them all. This is certainly true and, I'd hasten to add, probably part of the reason people don't always jump on your suggestions as much as you'd like. You've certainly had enough responses in the past that it's clear you are not, in general, disregarded here. Most likely the times you get few responses are just due to people having busy lives (not me, I'll admit), having a long list of things to try out, or just feeling like they don't have anything significant to add to the discussion. In short, please don't take these things personally -- you know you're respected here; things just sometimes slip through the cracks, for all of us. And no, I didn't mean anything naughty by that last idiom. :P
As I've said about CC, I haven't listened to much of his solo stuff yet, but I do intend to. I like what he's done on other projects, and I do have one or two solo songs of his on the Singles soundtrack (mostly good Seattle bands/performers). Likely he hasn't been higher on my "to try" list because he's not to my mind particularly proggy (although one doesn't have to be proggy to be good), and since I went several years deprived of prog, I'm still soaking in all the good prog I missed when it came out.
Just to pretend to get back on topic: I should probably give some listens to some full Queen albums as my experience of them is mostly from the radio, where certain songs got overplayed and others got no airtime at all. I can tell there's some quality there, but I don't feel I have enough personal knowledge of them to offer a more definitive opinion.
Quote from: Manatee on Thu, 2009-10-22, 16:26:30
No idea what MIH is
Manatee's 'inkin hiccups ;D
or Made In Heaven :)
One could of course say that
your MIH are made in Guinness Heaven - and thus we can distinguish between MIH and MIGH (altho not audially) ::) ;D
Nicky.
Quote from: maddox on Wed, 2009-10-21, 20:58:36
i was quite positive about Chris but sadly i haven't heard anything of his solo-stuff
Quote from: Manatee on Thu, 2009-10-22, 16:26:30
As I've said about CC, I haven't listened to much of his solo stuff yet, but I do intend to.
OK, I wont reprimand
you, Greenie, as I can see that you werent active in the Room at the time :)
But if you guys
really mean that you'd like to hear some of CC's best solo stuff, then here's your chance (my last reminder):
http://shattered-room.net/index.php?topic=15.9375
Go halfway down the page.
And there's even a "Helen" included in the package ;)
Nicky.
Quote from: maddox on Tue, 2009-10-20, 20:08:00
Even as a child i never thought that Bohemian Rhapsody was the best track ever.
(http://images.bravenet.com/common/images/smilies/rotfl.gif) *giggles, and leaves this with no further comment*
Quote from: Nicky007 on Wed, 2009-10-21, 11:56:51
I don't find this discussion worthy of proggies. You guys are just discussing the radio hits.
Did anyone at all play the link to Brighton Rock that I had supplied ???
One of the best facilities of the internet is that we can share music on the net, but this offer seems to have been wasted on you guys :(
Let's discuss some of the best Queen songs, those by Brian May: Brighton Rock, The Prophet's Song, From Father To Son !
Until you guys draw these songs into the picture, I simply can't take your comments seriously :-\
Nicky.
It's ridiculous, but I'm mostly on a computer with no working speakers on it. The cables and headphones alternative is a PITA. I am ashamed, of course. But I do feel Queen have had a chance at showing what they're made of, that most bands will never get. If they still haven't impressed someone who's paid more than the average amount of attention, I don't know.... You are very thorough, Nicky, and as such you will be casting a lot of pearls before the swine on the electric interweb...
Well, admittedly Queen have received more than their due of attention (an inordinate amount of it due to Freddie's antics). But that doesnt change the fact that they have made some of the best rock music on this planet *horns*
Nicky.
Hmmm... ok, well how's this for effort: I ran down to the local shop to see if they might, hope against hope, have a pair of headphones or even earplugs for me. But they didn't. So... but I will, because there's some respect thing going on here, (not for Queen - heaven forbid! - but for Nicky) clickety the links provided, as soon as there will be sound. ;)
Quote from: Deenfan on Thu, 2009-10-22, 18:03:44
... but for Nicky ...
Well, thanks, Deenie, but I think all of ya will be surprised about Euphoria Morning.
I just listened to it again, and it
is *horns*
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there's some respect thing going on here
Don't worry about that, Deenie, I have nuff self-confidence. (I think you guys have noticed that.) It's just that I expect a bit more of the Room than just "Well, I listened to this" and "I listened to that" and "Who cares" ;)
I know that most music chatforums are like that, but maybe we can make somethin special outta the Room, i.e. create some sorta organism :-\
But it
would help if ya showed
some respect for Queen ;D
Btw I'v been wondering where exactly in "northern Norway" you live. Must be a bigger town, since there's an electronics store. My guess is Trondheim, but it could just as well be Rana or Bodø or Narvik ???
I promise that I wont come up and shoot you - regardless of what ya say about Queen ;D
Nicky.
Whey... Trondheim is in the south!!! >:(
And all those you mention are south of me. The store wasn't an electronics one. It was, and still today is, a grocery shop, but they do tend to have a lot of assorted wank, maybe including earplugs. -Typical of these countryside shops. I'm quite out of the way when at work, nowadays. I changed workplace(s?) this autumn, for a period of almost a year.
The respect thing was a good thing, not the way you seemed to take it. But it would still make sense, and you've given a good reply to that conception of it, so all's good.
And...I've found a couple of broken earplugs that I have mended by means of GLUE, that I found on a shelf here. They seem to work now, so I'll be linkyclicky!! ;D
Brighton rock. It shows some diversity, and does have some fine harmonies. Some of the parts are even pretty cool. But overall I'd say it sounds naïve, old and slightly silly. Just like many things from the sixties, that were cool and rocking at the time. On the backdrop of what I've been listening to the last twenty years, I don't get the "mean and cool" impression that the people got way back then. I mean, it's probably going to continue this way. People are already laughing at what I felt was the pinnacle of wickedness in 1985. :-\
Quote from: Deenfan on Fri, 2009-10-23, 12:20:28
And all those you mention are south of me.
OK, you live on the
North Pole :o
Guess it's Tromsø then ???
Or Hammerfest ? Or Alta ?
You'r really keepin me on the line, Deenie :P
And ya teach Norwenglish ? ;D
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It was, and still today is, a grocery shop
Try with two figs at yer ears, Deenie ;D
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But overall I'd say it sounds naïve, old and slightly silly.
Of course I realise that I woudnt be in a swoon if I heard it for the first time today, Deenie. It's a loooooong way (not only to Tipperary, but) from Queen's Brighton Rock to Jeff Loomis' Jato Unit. - And great, that, shows that numerous people have made a big effort 8)
But as proggies, I think it's also important to see things in a historical perspective. And BR
was a bomb in 1973. I can hardly think of a piece that knocked me over like that *horns*
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The respect thing was a good thing, not the way you seemed to take it.
I was just kiddin, Deenie ;) (Do I do anythin else ?) ;D (I just hope that I don't offend anyone (too much). I try to tune in to who it is I'm talkin to.) :)
Nicky.
Ok, I'm one hour south of Tromsø, if you have a decent car and no egg between your foot and the pedal to the right. Hammerfest? Alta? Hell, that's in the county of Finnmark, and I've never even crossed that border, in the whole of my life. They're all mental anyway. I don't know how far away that border is, but I think it'd be about three hours, maybe four. And I see no point in going from where I'm at, and head NORTH for half a day, or any other amount of time that exceeds what's needed to take me to Tromsø.
;)
Can't you provide a link to a completely different song? Educate us. And wasn't "Radio gaga" a Freddy solo thing?
Quote from: Deenfan on Fri, 2009-10-23, 20:36:56
Can't you provide a link to a completely different song?
Hey, don't overdo it, Deenie. We're thru with Queen. Do me a favor and play the CC links instead. With all the effort I'v put into it, there will then be at least
one person who gets the treat. And tellya, you won't regret it ;)
OK, now I aint gonna mention CC for at least a week. I don't wanna obsess about'm ;D
Nicky.
OK then, Deenie:
Teo Torriate http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hSGuMfv24xA (a gripping performance by Freddie, even John Deacon is visibly touched, Mad)
Teo Torriate - original version http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r451u0NGroo&NR=1&feature=fvwp (better singing)
39 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pAnpGXPYAIQ (you see the guys really enjoyin themselves)
Long Away http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t2U-QXtrimI (here it's Brian singin, "Lonely as a whisper on a star chase")
Father To Son http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L6Hmb9gHKbU (nice to see the guys when they were just a "rock group")
Killer Queen http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MMz-wi50ACU (Freddie already playin on the "bi")
The Prophet's Song http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=odGvIh63sOY (folksy Queen)
Another One Bites The Dust http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rNQRfBAzSzo&feature=related (this one rocks real good)
Made In Heaven http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UJCIbgi1M5k (Fred'nboyant, sure, but also beautiful and gripping, music of the highest order !)
So, if this don't convince ya :-\
Quote from: Deenfan on Thu, 2009-10-22, 17:37:19
You are very thorough, Nicky, and as such you will be casting a lot of pearls before the swine on the electric interweb...
Yeah, I know, Deenie, but if only one or two people catch a bit of the magic, it's worth the effort - and some people start realising that thoroughness is a virtue, cause thoroughness
transforms ;)
Nicky.
Thanks for the links of both CC and Queen, Nicky. ;)
I promise i'll watch them this evening.
To be continued....
Curious to hear what you think of Queen and the unmentionable, Mad ;D 8)
Nicky.
CC... aaaarrgggghhhh.... I cannot make myself go through all of it. All of any one of the songs. I don't like the vibe. This is more like it:
http://www.bobrivers.com/#v8302 :D "Asshole son..."
;)
Hey, it's Weird Al, and Bohemian Polka (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-RcEhSOLUPY)!! :D
How 'bout this one: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wNvk9OEmyZ8 "I want to date a bisexual..."
:D
What else is there to say?! :D
Quote from: Nicky007 on Sat, 2009-10-24, 10:00:26
OK then, Deenie:
39 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pAnpGXPYAIQ (you see the guys really enjoyin themselves)
To be honest, I'm a bit hesitant to click on that link... do I want to see that?!!??!?! :-\
Ok, here I go, clicking on all the links, one by one. Simultaneously does have it's merits, especially in matters of efficiency, but...
Teo Torriatte(Let Us Cling Together) Queen live at Japan:..................Nice. Good.
Queen - Teo Torriatte (Let Us Cling Together)................................Nice little thing.
Queen-'39..........................................................................Happygoluckythingy. Nice, if a bit sick.
Queen "Long Away"...............................................................Very enjoyable. Simple thing.
Man, he does have good teeth, that Freddie. You almost wonder if he did really fit into, well, that was bad wordage... I'm trying to say, of all people to... be... forget it.
Queen- Father To Son............................................................Chaotic.
queen - killer queen................................................................Hey, I know this one! Very good!!
Queen: The Prophet's Song (Slide Show).......................................Good. Strange, and takes a bit of listening to, but it pays off. Very good.
Queen - Another One Bites The Dust...........................................He he. Weird track. Speaking of which, I have to give you a link to Weird Al's...
ANOTHER ONE RIDES THE BUS (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7YQa6l3Geyo) :D
Queen Made In Heaven.......................................................This is very beautiful. And cheeky.
The one thing that made me go through all this, apart from the fact that Nicky deserves it, is this quote from the first Shadow Gallery album:
Long live Freddy Mercury
Hm ... hm... looks like the hjemmebryg (+ some other things) is pretty potent up there - in Svartnes (my new guess) ?
Well, Deenie, iac you got to listen to some of the best Queen songs.
Hope at least you can get some intimation of why we are millions who dig'm.
Yeah, I also noticed Freddie's teeth - a twist on the dentata theme ;D
I'l play yer links when I'v had my temporary fill of Phideaux (on MySpace) *horns*
So, Mad, did you have some good experiences with the Queen songs ? :)
Nicky.
Svartnes... :D Right fjord, actually... ;D
OK, Deenie, no sense in guessin further. Ya gotta tell me now. There are several settlements along that d* fjord.
And do you have some photos you can share with us ? The landscape must be spectacular. (You don't need to send any fotos of yer bedroom antics.)
And where do yer mates live ? Where do you guys rehearse - in Tromsø ?
And what in the world are you doin in such a remote place ? Did yer Dad help sink the Tirpitz ?
Nicky.
He sat ringside, shouting insults and wiggling his big toe disrespectfully in the general direction of the sinking ship!
...or was that my grandfather...?
It'd be just like any of them.
Where I'm at? One last hint, then: As far as communities go in this remote place, I live near the middle of the largest one - walking distance to school, kindergarten, shops, police, community hall, sporting hall, health center (doctors, old people's homes, dentists...the lot)... and the woods, the fjord, the lakes, the rivers and the mountains. You can reach it all, by foot, in one day.
Rehearsals?!?! Are you mad? The keyboard player in Langhus, 1580kms away, and the singer lives in Notodden, 1678kms away. To our shock and delight, the bass player is no longer a residence of neither La Paz, Bolivia, where he lived during the Return to the Mirror sessions, nor Zomewhere, Poland, where he lived during the Shifting Sands sessions! He is actually living near where I am at, although we reckon he'll spiral off to New Zealand (where his sister actually lives, come to think of it) or some similar place any day.
The guitarist is in Tromsø, so you'll feel a bit informed. :D
Quote from: Deenfan on Sun, 2009-10-25, 21:46:02
Where I'm at?
OK, so it's gotta be Balsfjord ???
Nicky.
:D That's the fjord, yes. ;D
Quote from: Deenfan on Mon, 2009-10-26, 02:05:49
:D That's the fjord, yes. ;D
OK, I can see that now :-[
Andersdal then - gotta be !!!
How did you guys meet ? My guess: You all grew up together in Andersdal and the Tromsø area :-\
Fabulous: http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Andersdalen?uselang=no
Nicky.
My cents worth, Queen is a major force in rock and pop music, not to be dismissed. Their Greatest Hits II was one of my first cd's and I have played it to death (because I didn't have much to play but also because I really liked it of course). Later on I got Greatest Hits (I) and Innuendo. The latter is marvellous and gets regular play, Greatest Hits II not so often anymore (I'm saturated with that). Also, relevant on this forum: Clive and John M are big Queen fans!
As for Chris Cornell, I did listen to the links you provided Nicky and Euphoria Morning was subsequently added to my shopping list, I will be getting it sometime soon.
Regarding Nicky's observation in his first post in this thread about prog staying under the radar, I think it's on the rise again for some time, with a whole bunch of prog-related/influenced bands reaching the album charts: Radiohead, Muse, Mars Volta, Sigur Rós and now even Porcupine Tree.
Quote from: Nicky007 on Mon, 2009-10-26, 10:15:53
OK, I can see that now :-[
Andersdal then - gotta be !!!
How did you guys meet ? My guess: You all grew up together in Andersdal and the Tromsø area :-\
Fabulous: http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Andersdalen?uselang=no
Nicky.
First of all, apologies to Matt and all other members actually trying to talk about Queen... but then
Andersdal?!?! :D
I don't know if there are people there at all, maybe 50 or so. You must look for 50 times that. :-X
Quote from: erik on Mon, 2009-10-26, 17:16:54
As for Chris Cornell, I did listen to the links you provided Nicky and Euphoria Morning was subsequently added to my shopping list, I will be getting it sometime soon.
Euphoria Morning is a good album. :)
Quote from: erik on Mon, 2009-10-26, 17:16:54
My cents worth, Queen is a major force in rock and pop music, not to be dismissed.
*horns*
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As for Chris Cornell, I did listen to the links you provided Nicky and Euphoria Morning was subsequently added to my shopping list, I will be getting it sometime soon.
Great with serious Roomies *horns* ;)
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Regarding Nicky's observation in his first post in this thread about prog staying under the radar, I think it's on the rise again for some time, with a whole bunch of prog-related/influenced bands reaching the album charts: Radiohead, Muse, Mars Volta, Sigur Rós and now even Porcupine Tree.
Yeah, and Queensrÿche, DT, and (semi)topically, CC *horns*
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Also, relevant on this forum: Clive and John M arre big Queen fans!
Mad is no longer an Arena fan :P
Quote from: keyboardistmatt on Tue, 2009-10-27, 08:52:28
Euphoria Morning is a good album. :)
*horns*
Quote from: Deenfan on Mon, 2009-10-26, 21:41:37
First of all, apologies to Matt and all other members actually trying to talk about Queen... but then Andersdal?!?! :D
Yeah, but this is a manhunt !!! All means go ;D
OK, so it must be Nordkjosbotn.
I just didnt like the name at first :P
http://no.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nordkjosbotn
You talked about a school and a clinic (turns out to be natural medicine). The store you mentioned is probably the Rema 1000 http://www.gulesider.no/kart/#lat%3D7714346.73183%26lon%3D916194.49142%26zoom%3D18%26layers%3D00B00%26id%3Da_10000134897%26offset%3D0%26tab%3Daddress
You'r the bloke at the corner talkin to the pair of b*bs, right ?
Yeah, there's a surprisingly big community there at the cusp of the Balsfjord. Guess the climate is (relatively) clement ???
"Og maj'n kom inn på går'n sin og der fikk han se ..."
So when will Queen be playin in Nordkjosbotn ? ;D
Nicky.
Nordkjosbotn?! :o Are you accusing me of consuming one full hour just to drive 70kms!? ::)
Nice try, but there are only 400 people there.
NEEEXT!!
"Og maj'n kom inn på går'n sin og der fikk han se ..." ...ei fetta så diger at han gjikk i kne?! ??? :D
Man, this is deteriorating. You, other people: Ignore this. Nothing to see here!
I find it very amusing. At least I know where Balsfjord is now (completely at the top of the world ;D)
My dear people, for once...
Could we just stay on topic? :-\
:D
We're close. We're on topic of the world!! ;D
Storsteinnes?
Quote from: Bupie on Wed, 2009-10-21, 14:16:43
Fat Bottomed Girls is from Brian May : music and "words" ...
Have you tried his solo stuff?? 'Back to the Light' is particularly good. There's alot of different styles on this album.
Quote from: johninblack on Mon, 2009-10-19, 08:27:58
Queen II - One of the best albums ever. Period. There is no further debate ;D
...you may have noticd that this debate is still happening...
I knew this would be a good idea! ;D
Quote from: maddox on Tue, 2009-10-27, 22:22:57
My dear people, for once...
Could we just stay on topic? :-\
:D
What has a hazelnut in every bite? -Topic!! ;D
Quote from: keyboardistmatt on Wed, 2009-10-28, 09:30:46
Have you tried his solo stuff?? 'Back to the Light' is particularly good. There's alot of different styles on this album.
No but I will :)
OK, I've listened at the complete
A Night At The Opera three times in a row yesterday. I didn't recognize or remember any of the songs apart from
You're My best Friend and
Bohemian Rhapsody so I guess that it means that I never heard this album before ... or have reached an advanced state of Alzheimer :(
The album is somewhat conform to what I was expecting : diverse and innovative, and I can understand its huge impact by the time of its release. But songs like
Lazing ...,
Seaside ... or
Good Company will never be my cup of tea and the vocal harmonies in
The Prophet's Song belong to another millenium :P
So it leaves me with the more conventional rockers and ballads (even a folky one in
'39) and, of course,
Bohemian Rhapsody which is just an out-of-this-world song IMHO *horns* (repeat to the infinite).
Overall, it's very good but it doesn't make me eager to go and listen to other Queen albums right now.
Quote from: johninblack on Wed, 2009-10-28, 04:48:40
Storsteinnes?
Guess it's gotta gotta be (not much of a success for 007) :-[
This one has a population of 913 (probably including all dogs and cats and polar bears) ::)
http://no.wikipedia.org/wiki/Storsteinnes
So, what does one do in Storsteineinnes - apart from playing drums, watching tv, milking goats, and :D
Beer must cost a fortune, so that's excluded ;D
And cd's obviously only get there 15 years after release ;)
Quote from: Iggy on Tue, 2009-10-27, 21:25:22
I find it very amusing. At least I know where Balsfjord is now (completely at the top of the world ;D)
At least it's not in North Korea ;D
Quote from: keyboardistmatt on Wed, 2009-10-28, 09:39:19
What has a hazelnut in every bite? -Topic!! ;D
;D
And thus I'm on topic too :D
Nicky.
Quote from: Bupie on Wed, 2009-10-28, 10:43:37
No but I will :)
Recommended from here too *horns*
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I guess that it means that I never heard this album before ... or have reached an advanced state of Alzheimer
... or are French :D
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Overall, it's very good but it doesn't make me eager to go and listen to other Queen albums right now
All in all, it represents very well how I picture Queen - so I guess you probably won't need another Queen album, Bups :)
Spend some money on Steve Vai instead ;)
Nicky.
johninblack has done well, 007... but you did a lot of the hard work!
Storsteinnes is correct. But 913... must be just within the signs. There are 2500 people within five minutes of my garage. I know, there used to be an ambulance there, and the national institute for consumer research told me this.
So. Queen..
Quote from: Nicky007 on Thu, 2009-10-29, 12:05:08
Queen yourself :P
Nicky.
Now now gentlemen, do calm down.
Try not to use the Band's name in vain... ;D
Ok, one last desperate try (and trick) to get Mad and other Dutch Roomies into Queen : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nCEXkik6Iuk
;D
Quote from: Bupie on Tue, 2009-11-03, 00:41:56
Ok, one last desperate try (and trick) to get Mad and other Dutch Roomies into Queen : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nCEXkik6Iuk
;D
Nice video.
Quote from: Bupie on Tue, 2009-11-03, 00:41:56
Ok, one last desperate try (and trick) to get Mad and other Dutch Roomies into Queen : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nCEXkik6Iuk
;D
:D
Nice video. :P ;)
My view on Queen is simple and it's the same view I apply to Cardiacs, Neil Young and Frank Zappa. I.e. they are their own category so as long as you don't try to categorise them into a music genre you'll be fine & you can just get on with listening to them and enjoying them.
Certain bands/singers, although not many, are like that, extremely artistic and brilliant, extremely varied, extremely productive and extremely loved and therefore too genre boundary transgressing, and too good to be pigeon-holed.
Well that's my tuppence worth. ;D
Everybody likes Queen, they just don't know it yet. ;) ;D
Prog has progressed, so I can fully understand that proggies prefer some present-day groups, but that proggies shouldnt like Queen, with all their wonderful melody, harmony, drive, playfulness, Brian's craftmanship, etc, is beyond me - must be lack of exposure ???
Nicky.
Quote from: Nicky007 on Sat, 2009-11-07, 09:26:03
Prog has progressed, so I can fully understand that proggies prefer some present-day groups, but that proggies shouldnt like Queen, with all their wonderful melody, harmony, drive, playfulness, Brian's craftmanship, etc, is beyond me - must be lack of exposure ???
Nicky.
Agreed...