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Title: Greatest prog singers
Post by: Nicky007 on Wed, 2007-05-30, 11:04:17
In alphabetical order:


Ray Alder  (Fates Warning, Redemption, Engine)
Russell Allen  (Symphony X, with Jørn Lande, solo)
Jon Anderson  (Yes, Jon & Vangelis, solo)
Mike Baker  (Shadow Gallery, Ayreon)
Gary Belin  (Stride)
David Bowie  (solo)
Chris Cornell  (Soungarden, Audioslave, solo, Temple Of The Dog)
Nick D'Virgilio  (Spock's Beard, solo)
Fish  (Marillion, solo)
Daniel Gildenlöw  (Pain Of Salvation, Transatlantic)
David Gilmore  (Pink Floyd, solo)
Marco Glühmann  (Sylvan)
Tracy Hitchings  (Landmarq, with Clive Nolan and Oliver Wakeman, solo)
James LaBrie  (Dream Theater, solo)
Mac  (Threshold, Sargant Fury, Yargos)
Neal Morse  (Spock's Beard, Transatlantic, solo)
Robert Plant  (Led Zeppelin, Strange Sensation, solo)
Rob Sowden  (Arena, Solar)
Layne Staley  (Alice In Chains, Mad Season)
Roger Waters  (Pink Floyd, solo)
Scott Weiland  (Stone Temple Pilots, Velvet Revolver, solo)
Damian Wilson  (Threshold, Landmarq, Ayreon, with Rick Wakeman, solo)
Steven Wilson  (Porcupine Tree, Blackfield)
Paul Wrightson  (Arena)
Mikael Åkerfeldt  (Opeth)
 

Nicky.
Title: Re: Greatest prog singers
Post by: The Butterfly Man on Wed, 2007-05-30, 11:18:56
Quote from: Nicky007 on Wed, 2007-05-30, 11:04:17
IMO INPO :


Rob Sowden      Mac      Chris Cornell      Ray Alder      Nick D'Virgilio      Neal Morse      Paul Wrightson      David Gilmore      Roger Waters      Layne Staley      Scott Weiland      Britney Spears


I think that this topic can get some tempers boiling.

Nicky.

I'm sorry but I think I'll have to add James Labrie to that list. Not to tease you, but only because I feel so. :)

Tom
Title: Re: Greatest prog singers
Post by: Nicky007 on Wed, 2007-05-30, 11:47:52
OK, Tom, if not for any other reason than that he was the right person at the right place at the right time. What wouldn't I do for DT and you (competing with PH here).

LaBrie is added (next to Britney)  ;D

Nicky.
Title: Re: Greatest prog singers
Post by: Appelmoes?? on Wed, 2007-05-30, 12:29:30
Damian Wilson ofcourse.
Title: Re: Greatest prog singers
Post by: Peter on Wed, 2007-05-30, 12:47:55
Quote from: Nicky007 on Wed, 2007-05-30, 11:04:17
IMO INPO :


Rob Sowden      Mac      Chris Cornell      Ray Alder      Nick D'Virgilio      Neal Morse      Paul Wrightson      David Gilmore      Roger Waters      Layne Staley      Scott Weiland      Fish      James LaBrie      Britney Spears


I think that this topic can get some tempers boiling.

Nicky.

Apart from the fact that I don't even know some of those (namely Layne Staley, Scott Weiland, Ray Alder) , I'm pretty sure that the last one was actually a Freudian something, wasn't it...

Please add Procupine Tree's Steven Wilson, if you will. He always claims to be not an awfully proficient singer, but I like his voice a lot.
Please also add Sylvan's Marco Glühmann. One of the few who can actually transport emotions with his voice.
Title: Re: Greatest prog singers
Post by: Proglady on Wed, 2007-05-30, 13:05:11
Quote from: Peter on Wed, 2007-05-30, 12:47:55

Please also add Sylvan's Marco Glühmann. One of the few who can actually transport emotions with his voice.


I totaly agree with you Peter!!!  *horns*
Title: Re: Greatest prog singers
Post by: Andy on Wed, 2007-05-30, 13:45:31
On first place - John Wetton - the greatest singer ever.
I also like Fish, John Carson, Paul Wrightson, John Mitchell, Nick Barrett, Rob Sowden.

Sorry but I can't stand Labrie and Dream Theater. They think they are professionals, but their music lacks the soul.
Title: Re: Greatest prog singers
Post by: Nicky007 on Wed, 2007-05-30, 13:50:20
Quote from: Peter on Wed, 2007-05-30, 12:47:55
Apart from the fact that I don't even know some of those (namely Layne Staley, Scott Weiland, Ray Alder)

Well, Layne Staley was the singer of Alice in Chains, with Jerry Cantrell harmonising finely. Layne poured out his soul so much in his music that he ended up dying of it. Very sad, and very special.

Scott Weiland was (and hopefully will be again) the singer of Stone Temple Pilots, a group that almost made it to my genius list. He also made a solo album, 12 Bar Blues, which is a masterpiece, also very special. He earns a good buck playing with Slash, Duff, and Matt in Velvet Revolver, a solid rock group with a fraction of the intelligence of STP.

You don't know Ray Alder? Good grief, captain. He's the fabulous singer of Fates Warning and Redemption, one of my absolute nr. 1's.


> Please add Procupine Tree's Steven Wilson, if you will. He always claims to be not an awfully proficient singer, but I like his voice a lot.

You're right, there's something very special and expressive about his voice.


>  Please also add Sylvan's Marco Glühmann. One of the few who can actually transport emotions with his voice.

Haven't heard him yet, but he's on his way to me, or at least his voice is.

But OK, what don't I do for my captain (I'm trying to get friends around here, lonely me with my crazy ideas).


> I'm pretty sure that the last one was actually a Freudian something, wasn't it...

The reason I added Britney was because I have to do some bizniz in order to be able to buy the stuff on my shopping list. At some point, someone will get so annoyed at seeing Britney on the prog singer list that s/he will offer to pay a large sum for me to remove Britney. OK, the bidding starts herewith.

Nicky.
Title: Re: Greatest prog singers
Post by: Nicky007 on Wed, 2007-05-30, 14:02:30
Quote from: Andy on Wed, 2007-05-30, 13:45:31
On first place - John Wetton - the greatest singer ever.
I also like Fish, John Carson, Paul Wrightson, John Mitchell, Nick Barrett, Rob Sowden.

Sorry but I can't stand Labrie and Dream Theater. They think they are professionals, but their music lacks the soul.

Very welcome here in the Room, Andy. Great to have a Russian Arena fan. Na Zdrovie.

I'll check out Flash Range soon and give you one of my crazy opinions.

With regard to our respective fave singers, the main explanation of the difference is age: You're 20 and I'm 52. (I could almost be your male babushka.)

Dream Theater is a favorite band of several Roomies. Their albums are very difficult to get into, particularly the later ones. They require many attentive listens. But in the last end, we are many proggies who regard Arena and Dream Theater as the two Masters of Prog Rock.

Nicky.
Title: Re: Greatest prog singers
Post by: Nicky007 on Wed, 2007-05-30, 14:07:30
Quote from: Appelmoes?? on Wed, 2007-05-30, 12:29:30
Damian Wilson ofcourse.

At this point, I'll promise you to listen more attentively to him, Appelmoes.

Nicky.
Title: Re: Greatest prog singers
Post by: Lake of despond on Wed, 2007-05-30, 14:15:45
Damian Wilson on Threshold albums, Damian Wilson in Landmarq, Damian Wilson on each Ayreon, Damian Wilson with Rick Wakeman, Damian Wilson as guest in Aina and finally Damian Wilson and his solo work.
Title: Re: Greatest prog singers
Post by: Nicky007 on Wed, 2007-05-30, 14:20:07
OK, looks like I'm being majorised around here, and I always give in to (pretty) ladies.

Damian's on his way to the great list.

Nicky.
Title: Re: Greatest prog singers
Post by: Nicky007 on Wed, 2007-05-30, 14:39:11
I've removed the IMO from the list, as I'm acting more like a backstopper at this point.

Nicky.
Title: Re: Greatest prog singers
Post by: maddox on Wed, 2007-05-30, 22:37:39
Two names that has to be in it are Daniell Gildenlow (Pain Of Salvation) and Mike Baker (Shadow Gallery).

In my opinion ( ;)) two of the best prog singers in the world.  *horns*

Am a bit surprised about three names though: Layne Stayley, Scott Weiland and Chris Cornell. The first two typical grunge-singers and Chris a powerful, indeed an excellent singer but i don't consider them prog singers. Just...Singers.
Title: Re: Greatest prog singers
Post by: Appelmoes?? on Wed, 2007-05-30, 23:22:42
Quote from: Lake of despond on Wed, 2007-05-30, 14:15:45
and finally Damian Wilson and his solo work.
Yet, that's not prog ;)
Title: Re: Greatest prog singers
Post by: Nicky007 on Wed, 2007-05-30, 23:52:28
Quote from: maddox on Wed, 2007-05-30, 22:37:39
Two names that has to be in it are Daniel Gildenlöw (Pain Of Salvation) and Mike Baker (Shadow Gallery).

In my opinion ( ;)) two of the best prog singers in the world.  *horns*

Let's hear what some other people think. I myself am a moderate fan of these two groups, and I haven't concentrated sufficiently on the singers to determine how good they are.


> Am a bit surprised about three names though: Layne Stayley, Scott Weiland and Chris Cornell. The first two typical grunge-singers and Chris a powerful, indeed an excellent singer but i don't consider them prog singers. Just...Singers.

I can see that you are not familiar with Scott's and Chris' solo albums, resp. 12 Bar Blues and Euphoria Morning. Both albums are clearly prog, and the singing on both of them is tremendous.

Alice In Chains was a very extraordinary group, clearly prog, and Layne a very expressive singer. Listen to the tripod album, and I'm sure you'll agree with me.

Nicky.
Title: Re: Greatest prog singers
Post by: maddox on Thu, 2007-05-31, 00:09:23
Quote from: Nicky007 on Wed, 2007-05-30, 23:52:28


I can see that you are not familiar with Scott's and Chris' solo albums, resp. 12 Bar Blues and Euphoria Morning. Both albums are clearly prog, and the singing on both of them is tremendous.

You're right, i'm not familiar with their solo work. Not really fond of Scott's performances (not even with Velvet Revolver btw)  but i am a fan of Chris' voice. I have all the Soundgarden albums and the Temple Of The Dog-project which in my view are amazing.

QuoteAlice In Chains was a very extraordinary group, clearly prog, and Layne a very expressive singer. Listen to the tripod album, and I'm sure you'll agree with me.

Nicky.

I agree with you that AIC was great. I still frequently listen to them. The death of Layne was also the death of one of the best rock bands on earth. Still, in my opinion, i wouldn't call it prog but with that the discussion could go on forever. I don't want that. Let's state that Chris and Layne are/were/whatever great singers.

Yet...Still no Scott Weiland for me. ;)
Title: Re: Greatest prog singers
Post by: The Butterfly Man on Thu, 2007-05-31, 02:58:07
Quote from: Nicky007 on Wed, 2007-05-30, 23:52:28
Let's hear what some other people think. I myself am a moderate fan of these two groups, and I haven't concentrated sufficiently on the singers to determine how good they are.

I think you definately have to add Daniel Gildenlow to your list, he is such a great singer! I really really like his voice! Well, he's at one of the top spots of my favourite singers anyway... ;)

Tom
Title: Re: Greatest prog singers
Post by: Nicky007 on Thu, 2007-05-31, 11:40:01
Quote from: The Butterfly Man on Thu, 2007-05-31, 02:58:07
I think you definately have to add Daniel Gildenlow to your list, he is such a great singer! I really really like his voice! Well, he's at one of the top spots of my favourite singers anyway... ;)

OK, he gets to the list, but if I ever see Gildenlöw spelled without the umlaut again here in the Room, he'll be removed immediately.

Nicky.
Title: Re: Greatest prog singers
Post by: Nicky007 on Thu, 2007-05-31, 12:15:06
I reordered our singers, so they're listed alphabetically now.

I also added the groups they sing & have sung in, + solo. You guys will have to help me out with groups I've missed.

I'd like to hear if you think John Anderson from Yes, Jon and Vangelis, and solo albums, belongs on our great list.

Let me also hear more opinions on singers present on and missing from the list. However, I will not accept any opinion on Scott Weiland from anyone who hasn't listened properly to 12 Bar Blues.

Nicky.

Title: Re: Greatest prog singers
Post by: The Butterfly Man on Thu, 2007-05-31, 12:42:14
Quote from: Nicky007 on Thu, 2007-05-31, 11:40:01
OK, he gets to the list, but if I ever see Gildenlöw spelled without the umlaut again here in the Room, he'll be removed immediately.

Nicky.

Oooohhhh I'm so very sorry. How can I make it up to you? ;)

But I'm glad that you added Daniel GildenlÖw to your list!

Tom
Title: Re: Greatest prog singers
Post by: PH on Thu, 2007-05-31, 16:51:09
Mikael Ackerfeldt (sorry about the little "o" that belongs on the "A").
Although I don't really like Opeth and am absolutely not a fan of his music, he has one of the BEST (if not the best) voices there are!
(The clean vocals anyway, he can put the growls for sale to a real Death Metal band).

I'm now listening to OSI and I think Kevin Moore has a very special voice! I like it very much!
But I don't think it belongs to the greatest prog singers...
Title: Re: Greatest prog singers
Post by: Nicky007 on Thu, 2007-05-31, 16:56:07
Quote from: The Butterfly Man on Thu, 2007-05-31, 12:42:14
Oooohhhh I'm so very sorry. How can I make it up to you? ;)

Beer next time. My standard answer. And this one demands a double, Tom, one for each missing dot.

But you're right. I was actually gripped by Daniel Gildenlöws voice from start, very powerful and fine English elocution, although I haven't yet been really gripped by PoS' music. Maybe you could help me: Note some of your fave passages for me (and maybe others in the Room).

Nicky.
Title: Re: Greatest prog singers
Post by: Nicky007 on Thu, 2007-05-31, 17:05:03
Quote from: PH on Thu, 2007-05-31, 16:51:09
Mikael Ackerfeldt (sorry about the little "o" that belongs on the "A").
Although I don't really like Opeth and am absolutely not a fan of his music, he has one of the BEST (if not the best) voices there are!
(The clean vocals anyway, he can put the growls for sale to a real Death Metal band).

I've been thinking about him too. And he's one of the few Vikings who has an excellent English (even though he growls a lot, he doesn't need to, but he might be mad at his wife a lot of the time).

So, Mikael ÅÅÅkerfeldt, welcome to the Great List Of Shattered Singers, or how was it?


> I'm now listening to OSI and I think Kevin Moore has a very special voice! I like it very much!
> But I don't think it belongs to the greatest prog singers...

Agree with you on that one.

Hey guys, give me an answer: How about Jon Anderson? I'm in doubt myself. I like his voice, and I've heard it a lot (have about 30 albums with him singing). But whether he's an actually great singer?

And we gotta find a female prog singer for our list, or else we risk losing our remaining hardy female Roomies. Leave it to the ladies: Who do you propose?

Nicky.

Title: Re: Greatest prog singers
Post by: Teunis on Thu, 2007-05-31, 18:45:06
Quote from: Nicky007 on Wed, 2007-05-30, 23:52:28
Let's hear what some other people think. I myself am a moderate fan of these two groups, and I haven't concentrated sufficiently on the singers to determine how good they are.
Mike Baker seems a great prog singer to me. It's one of my favourite singers of Ayreon's 'The Human Equation'. Then I checked out the music of Shadow Gallery and now I'm a SG fan  8) ;).
Title: Re: Greatest prog singers
Post by: Nicky007 on Thu, 2007-05-31, 18:54:56
Quote from: Teunis on Thu, 2007-05-31, 18:45:06
Mike Baker seems a great prog singer to me. It's one of my favourite singers of Ayreon's 'The Human Equation'. Then I checked out the music of Shadow Gallery and now I'm a SG fan  8) ;).

Also just listened to SG's Room V. Can't say I was all that impressed by either the music or the singing. Haven't yet heard MB on Human Eq.

But if there's one more Roomie who wants MB on the great list, there he'll be.

Nicky.
Title: Re: Greatest prog singers
Post by: Appelmoes?? on Thu, 2007-05-31, 20:14:40
I want him in there, he did a great job on Day 11: Loser, for Ayreon!
Title: Re: Greatest prog singers
Post by: maddox on Thu, 2007-05-31, 20:18:41
I already said he should be in it, so... ;)

As well as D. Gildenlow (sorry, no umlaut on my keyboard.  ;D)
Title: Re: Greatest prog singers
Post by: Nicky007 on Thu, 2007-05-31, 20:57:28
Quote from: Appelmoes?? on Thu, 2007-05-31, 20:14:40
I want him in there, he did a great job on Day 11: Loser, for Ayreon!

OK, OK, I have an Imperator, and even more agonising, a Sicko, giving me the gaze, so in goes Mike Baker.

Maddox, you just about got Daniel Gildenlöw wacked out of the list after less than a day, but OK, we're all good Christians, so I forgive you - but next time the umlaut is missing, DG gets exiled eternally.

Nicky.
Title: Re: Greatest prog singers
Post by: maddox on Thu, 2007-05-31, 21:11:13
Quote from: Nicky007 on Thu, 2007-05-31, 20:57:28


Maddox, you just about got Daniel Gildenlöw wacked out of the list after less than a day, but OK, we're all good Christians, so I forgive you - but next time the umlaut is missing, DG gets exiled eternally.

Nicky.

Yes, teacher but what i really wanted to say was "sorry, no umlaut on my keyboard".  ;)
Title: Re: Greatest prog singers
Post by: bellanova on Thu, 2007-05-31, 21:20:26
What about Tracy Hitchings? i just discovered her due to Clive giving me her album," From Ignorance to Ecstacy " on sunday in Sheffield. She is a bit prggy. Her songs are by Clive i think. Shes more rock but give her a listen.
Title: Re: Greatest prog singers
Post by: Peter on Thu, 2007-05-31, 21:38:34
Quote from: maddox on Thu, 2007-05-31, 21:11:13
"sorry, no umlaut on my keyboard".  ;)

You'd be surprised what happens when you hold the Alt key, press "0246" (without the quotes) on the numeric pad, then release the Alt key...
Title: Re: Greatest prog singers
Post by: Appelmoes?? on Thu, 2007-05-31, 21:40:06
Quote from: bellanova on Thu, 2007-05-31, 21:20:26
What about Tracy Hitchings? i just discovered her due to Clive giving me her album," From Ignorance to Ecstacy " on sunday in Sheffield. She is a bit prggy. Her songs are by Clive i think. Shes more rock but give her a listen.
Noooo, her voice is the only thing I don't like on the Hound and Jabberwocky.

@Maddox: First type a " (it will not appear if you have the right keyboard ;)) and then the vowel you want: äöëïÿü.
Title: Re: Greatest prog singers
Post by: maddox on Thu, 2007-05-31, 21:41:23
Quote from: Peter on Thu, 2007-05-31, 21:38:34
You'd be surprised what happens when you hold the Alt key, press "0246" (without the quotes) on the numeric pad, then release the Alt key...

Okay, didn't know that but then again i'm no IT wizard.  ;)

Anyways, thanks Peter.  :D Shall remember that one.  *horns*

Edit: And appel. :D
Title: Re: Greatest prog singers
Post by: PH on Thu, 2007-05-31, 22:02:16
Quote from: Appelmoes?? on Thu, 2007-05-31, 21:40:06Noooo, her voice is the only thing I don't like on the Hound and Jabberwocky.

Are you stupid? >:(

;)


Seriously, when Nicky brought up the question about which female should be added to the list, it was Tracy who came into my mind!
Tracy Hitchings is amazing!
And what about Mostly Autumn's Heather Findlay?

I also like Aleena Gibson from Kaipa.


Good female singers are scarce. We only find them in the Gothic scene, and I don't really like Prog Gothic... (Stream Of Passion is OK though, and Marcela Bovio too)
Title: Re: Greatest prog singers
Post by: Nicky007 on Thu, 2007-05-31, 22:07:39
Quote from: maddox on Thu, 2007-05-31, 21:41:23
Anyways, thanks Peter.  :D Shall remember that one.  *horns*

Remember, Maddox, it's Daniel Gildenlöws fate that's at stake.

Nicky.
Title: Re: Greatest prog singers
Post by: Nicky007 on Thu, 2007-05-31, 22:18:45
Quote from: PH on Thu, 2007-05-31, 22:02:16
Are you stupid? >:(   ;)

That's what I foresaw, that this topic would get the tempers boiling.

Quote from: PH on Thu, 2007-05-31, 22:02:16
Seriously, when Nicky brought up the question about which female should be added to the list, it was Tracy who came into my mind!
Tracy Hitchings is amazing!

In fact I too had Tracy in mind all along. I like her singing a lot on Jabberwocky. I looked her up on the net, and she seems very serious about her music.

So on the list she goes.

Thanks, Bellanova and PH.

Quote from: PH on Thu, 2007-05-31, 22:02:16
And what about Mostly Autumn's Heather Findlay? I also like Aleena Gibson from Kaipa.

Yeah, how about them?

Nicky.
Title: Re: Greatest prog singers
Post by: maddox on Thu, 2007-05-31, 22:26:35
Quote from: PH on Thu, 2007-05-31, 22:02:16

And what about Mostly Autumn's Heather Findlay?

I also like Aleena Gibson from Kaipa.


I agree with you on both points, PH. Though i don't really like, mind you i don't say 'i hate' i just say 'don't really like'  :P, Mostly Autumn, i do like Heather's voice a lot.

And i do like Daniel Gildenöw's voice.  ;D
What did i just say? Like? I love Daniel Gildenöw's voice.  ;D

Title: Re: Greatest prog singers
Post by: Crazy Diamond on Thu, 2007-05-31, 22:31:10
Quote from: maddox on Thu, 2007-05-31, 22:26:35
I agree with you on both points, PH. Though i don't really like, mind you i don't say 'i hate' i just say 'don't really like'  :P, Mostly Autumn, i do like Heather's voice a lot.



Heather Findlay has a good voice. problem for me is that MA vocals are shared with Bryan Josh and he (IMO) just doesn't cut it as a singer.

CD
Title: Re: Greatest prog singers
Post by: maddox on Thu, 2007-05-31, 22:33:12
Quote from: Crazy Diamond on Thu, 2007-05-31, 22:31:10
Heather Findlay has a good voice. problem for me is that MA vocals are shared with Bryan Josh and he (IMO) just doesn't cut it as a singer.

CD

That indeed is the reason why i think that Mostly Autumn would be better off having Heather on vocals alone.  :-\
Title: Re: Greatest prog singers
Post by: Appelmoes?? on Thu, 2007-05-31, 23:06:41
Sort of like Nightwish? On their first album one of the dudes is singing and it sounds aweful, on the second album he sticks to his instrument, luckely :)
Title: Re: Greatest prog singers
Post by: maddox on Thu, 2007-05-31, 23:20:51
Don't know about Nightwish. Only have Once which i not really like actually. Not a Nightwish fan.

Wish Bryan would follow in the dude of Nightwish footsteps, though.  :-\ Better for MA.
Title: Re: Greatest prog singers
Post by: Nicky007 on Fri, 2007-06-01, 10:52:42
Whadaya guys think about David Bowie?

My opinion is that his music is prog, and that he's a very expressive singer. I listened to him a lot some thirty years ago. However, I feel that he hasn't stayed at the edge during the past twenty years (in contrast to e.g. Robert Plant, who has).

Nicky.
Title: Re: Greatest prog singers
Post by: PH on Fri, 2007-06-01, 12:52:13
Quote from: maddox on Thu, 2007-05-31, 22:26:35I agree with you on both points, PH. Though i don't really like, mind you i don't say 'i hate' i just say 'don't really like'  :P, Mostly Autumn, i do like Heather's voice a lot.

My statement about Heather was because of The Human Equation!
I've heard just a few Mostly Autumn songs and didn't really like it either.
Title: Re: Greatest prog singers
Post by: Nicky007 on Fri, 2007-06-01, 16:32:53
Now, hardly anyone around here will know Stride, because they're American, baaaaaa, but I tell you, their most recent album, Imagine, is tremendous - melodic heavy, with interesting, rather religious, lyrics - and their singer, Gary Belin, is great. So, guys, how about getting your finger out ... and checking up on Stride. If there are no (qualified) objections, I'm gonno put Gary right there on that great list.

Here's a mindblower for you. Crank up the volume to full blast, and bang your neighbors on the head if they come over and complain.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=t8jmRLMWRm4

Nicky.
Title: Re: Greatest prog singers
Post by: Appelmoes?? on Fri, 2007-06-01, 16:45:17
Quote from: maddox on Thu, 2007-05-31, 23:20:51
Don't know about Nightwish. Only have Once which i not really like actually. Not a Nightwish fan.

Wish Bryan would follow in the dude of Nightwish footsteps, though.  :-\ Better for MA.
You should listen to the albums Oceanborn, Wishmaster and Century Child. You will find they are different from Once.
Title: Re: Greatest prog singers
Post by: Nicky007 on Fri, 2007-06-01, 18:29:16
Quote from: Appelmoes?? on Fri, 2007-06-01, 16:45:17
You should listen to the albums Oceanborn, Wishmaster and Century Child. You will find they are different from Once.

Appelmoes, are you claiming that there's a Finnish group that one can actually enjoy listening to without first having guzzled a bottle of vodka?

Nicky.
Title: Re: Greatest prog singers
Post by: Appelmoes?? on Fri, 2007-06-01, 18:53:56
Oh yes, all finnish are bad and not worth listening too ::)
Title: Re: Greatest prog singers
Post by: Nicky007 on Fri, 2007-06-01, 18:54:52
So, finish with the Finnish?

Nicky.
Title: Re: Greatest prog singers
Post by: Nicky007 on Sat, 2007-06-02, 12:27:20
Quote from: PH on Thu, 2007-05-31, 22:02:16
And what about Mostly Autumn's Heather Findlay?

Are you aware that Heather Findlay and Fish have just become engaged?

And that Heather will soon give birth to an Autumn Fish  ;D

Nicky.
Title: Re: Greatest prog singers
Post by: Appelmoes?? on Sat, 2007-06-02, 12:33:29
Quote from: Nicky007 on Sat, 2007-06-02, 12:27:20
Are you aware that Heather Findlay and Fish have just become engaged?
And are you aware they just broke up? Fish posted that on his site I believe.
Title: Re: Greatest prog singers
Post by: Crownie on Sat, 2007-06-02, 12:37:14
Knew about the engagement.  Think there may be a wedding in August.  And a Fish junior on the way?  I believe that Fish is playing at The Boardwalk in Sept/Oct.  Should be interesting as Odin Dragonfly are supporting (HF + Angela from MA).
Agree with comments on Heather's vocals.  She looks kinda fragile but she has a strong voice.  Strangely enough, I like Bryan's vocals intermingled with Heather's.  The sound works very well.

Other names to go in the hat?  Rachel Jones (ex Karnataka, now The Reasoning), Steve Taylor (Strangefish)
Title: Re: Greatest prog singers
Post by: Nicky007 on Sat, 2007-06-02, 16:49:58
Quote from: Appelmoes?? on Sat, 2007-06-02, 12:33:29
And are you aware they just broke up? Fish posted that on his site I believe.

Well, Heather said that there was something fishy about him  ;)

Does anyone know what Fish is up to musically?

Does anyone know why he really left Marillion? That was nothing less than a catastrophe (in my and the captain's opinion).

Nicky.
Title: Re: Greatest prog singers
Post by: maddox on Sat, 2007-06-02, 17:11:16
Quote from: Nicky007 on Sat, 2007-06-02, 16:49:58


Does anyone know what Fish is up to musically?

Besides grieving about his lost love he's working on his new album 13th Star.  ;)


Quote from: Nicky007Does anyone know why he really left Marillion? That was nothing less than a catastrophe (in my and the captain's opinion).

Nicky.

If i recall correctly it was musical differences. That's a broad term, i know. If it wasn't it surely had something to do with his love for some drinks.  :P  ;D
Title: Re: Greatest prog singers
Post by: PH on Mon, 2007-06-04, 13:35:45
Quote from: Appelmoes?? on Sat, 2007-06-02, 12:33:29
And are you aware they just broke up? Fish posted that on his site I believe.

You're right, but you're wrong! ;)

He's engaged to Heather on February 14th.
They made up again and now they're happy.
Title: Re: Greatest prog singers
Post by: Peter on Mon, 2007-06-04, 14:15:50
Quote from: PH on Mon, 2007-06-04, 13:35:45
You're right, but you're wrong! ;)

He's engaged to Heather on February 14th.
They made up again and now they're happy.

Yes, and they broke up again last week.
Title: Re: Greatest prog singers
Post by: Nicky007 on Mon, 2007-06-04, 14:26:07
Well, a fish on heather is maybe also a difficult proposition.

I think when I reach the 2000, I'll wanna be a sïcko. How's that for madness?

It seems people missed the joke earlier. Truth is that Michael Moore (you know the one that loves Bushy Boy) just made a film about healthcare in the States, called, guess what?

Nicky.
Title: Re: Greatest prog singers
Post by: Peter on Mon, 2007-06-04, 16:17:58
Quote from: Nicky007 on Sat, 2007-06-02, 16:49:58
Does anyone know why he really left Marillion? That was nothing less than a catastrophe (in my and the captain's opinion).

The stories I've read were basically about the band having spent too much time together. The MC album, world tour, CaS album, world tour, sitting on each others' laps for almost 3 years gave them the head shot. If they would have taken it slowlier -if given the chance by the label- they might have survived it. Why all of this had to culminate in Fish leaving and the rest staying together is a mystery. In my opinion it's most probably because Fish surely is a diva...
Title: Re: Greatest prog singers
Post by: Nicky007 on Mon, 2007-06-04, 16:38:05
Quote from: Peter on Mon, 2007-06-04, 16:17:58
In my opinion it's most probably because Fish surely is a diva...

Well, he seems to have been the genius in the group, in any case judging from the difference between Fish-era and post-Fish Marillion music.

Nicky.
Title: Re: Greatest prog singers
Post by: Proglady on Mon, 2007-06-04, 21:50:35
Quote from: Crownie on Sat, 2007-06-02, 12:37:14

Other names to go in the hat?  Rachel Jones (ex Karnataka, now The Reasoning), Steve Taylor (Strangefish)

Yes, I would like to see these names in the list!  *horns*
Title: Re: Greatest prog singers
Post by: Nicky007 on Tue, 2007-06-05, 09:33:14
Quote from: Proglady on Mon, 2007-06-04, 21:50:35
Yes, I would like to see these names in the list!  *horns*

I don't know these singers at all. That of course doesn't mean that they're not great, but it does mean that I'd like one more recom before I add them to the great list.

Nicky.
Title: Re: Greatest prog singers
Post by: Peter on Tue, 2007-06-05, 10:00:03
Quote from: Nicky007 on Mon, 2007-06-04, 16:38:05
Well, he seems to have been the genius in the group, in any case judging from the difference between Fish-era and post-Fish Marillion music.

Nicky.

100% ACK, Nicky.
Title: Re: Greatest prog singers
Post by: Nicky007 on Tue, 2007-06-05, 10:24:18
Peter, I thought ACK stood for: Arena is Considered to be a Knockout.

But you're using it differently.

Nicky.
Title: Re: Greatest prog singers
Post by: Nicky007 on Tue, 2007-06-12, 01:34:32
How about Floor Jansen?

Nicky.
Title: Re: Greatest prog singers
Post by: Appelmoes?? on Tue, 2007-06-12, 07:33:24
imo she sounds too powerful for prog music.
Title: Re: Greatest prog singers
Post by: PH on Tue, 2007-06-12, 07:51:03
Floor Jansen is Goth Metal.
I sometimes find it hard to believe that those Goth Metal bands are considered prog... I mean, ok it's alternative Metal, but that doesn't make it prog, right?

We need a new definitian! ;D :D
Title: Re: Greatest prog singers
Post by: Nicky007 on Tue, 2007-06-12, 12:06:35
Wikipedia has an excellent all-round article about prog:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Progressive_rock

Note that groups like Dream Theater, Tool, and Opeth are considered "prog" acc. to WP, more precisely "prog metal".

Nicky.
Title: Re: Greatest prog singers
Post by: Appelmoes?? on Tue, 2007-06-12, 12:47:46
Quote from: PH on Tue, 2007-06-12, 07:51:03
Floor Jansen is Goth Metal.
I sometimes find it hard to believe that those Goth Metal bands are considered prog... I mean, ok it's alternative Metal, but that doesn't make it prog, right?

We need a new definitian! ;D :D
No, After Forever is Goth Metal, we're talking about the singers now. Floor has been on Ayreon (which is still slightly prog imo) but as a background singer. She also was on Star One, but that was (symphonic) space metal.

To me prog is music that takes influences from other kinds of music and cultures, but remains rock. And rock is music that's based upon guitar, drum and bass.