I wonder if anyone here has already bought SG's new album ('Room V')? Is it really as good as 'Tyranny' (some of the reviewers claim so) ? Personally I find Shadow Gallery's 'Tyranny' the only album that can rival Arena in terms of the quality of the songwriting. Nearly every track is an instant winner. But of course lyrically the bands are worlds apart. Have you noticed that the British progressive concept albums are full of metaphors, symbols and are subjects to various interpretations (such as 'Visitor' and 'Subterranea'), while American prog-metal groups rely heavily on direct crime-story action plots ('Operation...', 'Scenes... 'and 'Tyranny'). I would say that Ayreon tends to follow the American school lyrically. Back to the topic though: any comments on 'Room V' ?
Hi Rafal, :)
I've bought the Album a few days ago and I love it! :-* I got all Albums from them. ;D But I wouldn't compare Shadow Gallery with Arena ::)
Cheers Proglady
I used to have the first one but wasn't overly impressed with it - have they changed much since then ?? :)
Quote from: Moonloop on Fri, 2005-06-10, 08:30:37
I used to have the first one but wasn't overly impressed with it - have they changed much since then ?? :)
Well, I already liked the first album. But 'Tyranny' is much better and I think 'Room V' is their best album so far. You should give the Band another chance. ;)
The first one is someone's favourite, and I see their point, but mine is "Carved in stone" by miles and miles. I would point it out as their lyrical all high. "Tyranny" is great. "Legacy" was good, but their low point so far. Just listening to "Room V" for the first time. It's them, alright. Other than that, I'll have to give it more listens.
 I like their previous effort. "Legacy" was a very good album (although, nothing extraordinary).  8)
Quote from: Proglady on Fri, 2005-06-10, 21:25:20
Well, I already liked the first album. But 'Tyranny' is much better and I think 'Room V' is their best album so far. You should give the Band another chance. ;)
Oh, go on then......I'll buy it ;D
I got it since friday, for my boyfriend. So he listened to that Room V all the week-end, and I found it pretty good.
Do not know very much about the band so far, but I'll take time to listen to previous albums too...
Going to buy next days the next Dreamtheater...
Strange about Dream Theater... I was a hysterical fan around "When dream and day unite" and "Images and words", but now, I've got the latest one on a cd-r that a friend sent me from Scotland, but I haven't bothered to put it on yet. Weird how it developed, really. :-[
Shadow Gallery, however, is another matter. I can't say anything about the latest yet, but they've always been delivering the goods.
Hello there !
I am a huge fan of Shadow Gallery since I discovered the band in 1997 with the "Tyrany" album which I considered their best effort so far.
The new album "Room V" is actually most impressive !!! :o
It continues the story of Tyrany but in a different atmposphere and I like the fact that this album isn't just a "Tyrany-part 2".
To make short, I'd say that this new album is a fine combination of the strong story and cohesion of "Tyrany" and the more modern and straightforward sound of "Legacy".
Two thumbs up ! 8)
PS: Regarding the new Dream Theater album "Octavarium", I'm actually very positive about it. It is softer and more proggy than the last one (Train of Thought) with still some very heavy piece of music. Except one cheesy "U2-ish" song and an anoying Muse-like compo, I'm seduced by this new piece of work.
Hey You ShadowGallery fans would You also vote for the best Shadowlandsong?
Haven't heard a note of their music. You vote on my behalf!! ;D
Never heard a song. Maybe I should "borrow" a couple of songs before I decide to order an album. Which songs would give a general idea of the music?
Appelmoes,
Go to their web site, http://www.shadowgallery.com/ , and listen to some samples. There are plenty of them and I think they are long enough that you'll get a good idea of what they sound like.
If you like Dream Theater, I think you'll like Shadow Gallery. The band's name even seems to be a play on the name.
Quote from: kmorse on Thu, 2005-08-18, 21:06:54
Appelmoes,
If you like Dream Theater, I think you'll like Shadow Gallery. The band's name even seems to be a play on the name.
Hm, not everybody wich likes Shadow Gallery likes Dream Theater and the other way ::), but i like both ;D
shadow gallery are great. love their new cd. just heard it about 10 times, and it still rocks me.
MAD. 8)
Quote from: Appelmoes?? on Thu, 2005-08-18, 18:30:08
Never heard a song. Maybe I should "borrow" a couple of songs before I decide to order an album. Which songs would give a general idea of the music?
So I'm not the only one who doesn't know shadowgallery, I'll find out
Quote from: Appelmoes?? on Thu, 2005-08-18, 18:30:08
Never heard a song. Maybe I should "borrow" a couple of songs before I decide to order an album. Which songs would give a general idea of the music?
... contrary of most of others Shadow-fans I really love Legacy, especially for what I think is their best track ever..... Cliffhanger 2!!!! You have absolutely to listen to second instrumental part, six minutes of incredible solos, riff, time-changing, great melodies, guitars and keys chasing each others....... really breath-taking!!!!!! :-)
The second song you really HAVE TO liste (ever IMO, of course) is Believe from their masterpiece Tyranny wich has the best poly-vocals harmonized chorus I've ever heard!!!! Something wonderful.........
Other tracks I like (not in any particular order... ):
- Darktown (from their debut self-titled album)
- Cliffhanger (from Carved In Stone)
- Colors (from Legacy)
- Comfort Me & Room V (from Room V)
.... and all the others!!!!
Looking at the new musical direction took by Dream Theater I really love more Shadow Gallery, though Octavarium is a very good work which I like more than the previous.......
Points of view!!!! ;)
Good listen!
Bye. Spad.
Quote from: Spad on Wed, 2005-09-21, 16:31:57
Looking at the new musical direction took by Dream Theater I really love more Shadow Gallery, though Octavarium is a very good work which I like more than the previous.......
I was a little dissapointed about Octavarium I like to listen to the album Train of Thought much more there's more energy in it like Threshold. In which direction would You place Shadow Gallery more in the Train of Thought or Octavarium direction, or does it have more similarities with Threshold or a more heavier band like Symphony X (too heavy for me)
Another Shadow gallery fan here! :) got all their albums, "Carved in Stone" and "Tyranny" being my favourite? any questions? ;)
Emilia
Just got the new one (2CD version) over the weekend but not played it yet. Will report back with an opinion later ;D
Quote from: Moonloop on Thu, 2005-10-06, 13:40:05
Just got the new one (2CD version) over the weekend but not played it yet. Will report back with an opinion later ;D
Great!! The double is really worth the more money you spent!!!!! Especially for the great Floyd old-covers medley.... Really a great track!
And the album is also something special and extremely beautiful......
Have a good listen!! :D And don't forget to listen to Floydian Memories..... it'll surely astonish you!!
Bye.
Quote from: Emilia on Thu, 2005-10-06, 13:01:16
Another Shadow gallery fan here! :) got all their albums, "Carved in Stone" and "Tyranny" being my favourite? any questions? ;)
Emilia
And here's another one! :) I stuck to their first two albums though, with Carved In Stone as absolute favourite. Did like Tyranny, but gave it away ´cause whenever I´m in a `Shadow Gallery mood´ I allways put on one of the first two. ;D
Quote from: erik on Thu, 2005-10-06, 15:52:20
And here's another one! :) I stuck to their first two albums though, with Carved In Stone as absolute favourite. Did like Tyranny, but gave it away ´cause whenever I´m in a `Shadow Gallery mood´ I allways put on one of the first two. ;D
Yes, Carved in Stone was really special (my first SG album). In terms of music maybe not so complex and varied as Tyranny or Room V but to be honest I like the vocals more on the Craved in Stone album, I regret they abandoned this style and went into a slightly different direction .... though Tyranny is my second favourite in terms of music (and the message included is this one is closer to me..of course I interpret it in my own way :) so it's a double history for me. Room V seems to be everyone's favourite (or almost 99%) but it takes only 3rd place for me. It's not as powerful and not so coherent musically I guess ...but the story there seems to be more obvious as a continuation of Tyranny story, I think Tyranny is more open to interpretation, more misterious maybe... but ok, everyone has got their own taste...still SG being in my top 3 bands of all times
E.
Must admit, I'm struggling a bit with the new one. Mainly because it's a bit heavy going at 75 mins. Personally, I tend to have a boredom threshold of around 50-60 minutes for an album (grew up on vinyl, see) and this modern day trend of trying to fill an 80 minute CD very rarely works in my opinion.
Still, I'll keep listening ;D
Not every artist puts 80 minutes of music on a CD, though! Some CD albums only contain 45-50 minutes. :)
Quote from: keyboardistmatt on Wed, 2005-10-12, 22:41:32
Not every artist puts 80 minutes of music on a CD, though! Some CD albums only contain 45-50 minutes. :)
Or maybe 52'ish, which I simply can't stop feeling like it's a little too short everytime I listen to it :D
Quote from: keyboardistmatt on Wed, 2005-10-12, 22:41:32
Not every artist puts 80 minutes of music on a CD, though! Some CD albums only contain 45-50 minutes. :)
Very true - and they're usually the better ones ;)
Quote from: Moonloop on Thu, 2005-10-13, 08:55:00
Very true - and they're usually the better ones ;)
... I think we can't do any rules including all the cases..... you are all rights.... and all wrong at the same time. I mean.... Dream Theater has (almost) always put out 70-80 minutes album and their incredible value is out of discussion....
On the contrary the IQ-trend for example, is setting at about 40-50 minutes and even in this case the musical quality is very high....
I prefer not to name the bad examples of both trends (long or short albums) as each of us has his/her personal ideas about this...... but it's a matter of fact that we could find bad albums (or better... albums we dislike) 40 or 80 minutes long.
Quote from: Spad on Thu, 2005-10-13, 14:15:47
... I think we can't do any rules including all the cases..... you are all rights.... and all wrong at the same time. I mean.... Dream Theater has (almost) always put out 70-80 minutes album and their incredible value is out of discussion....
On the contrary the IQ-trend for example, is setting at about 40-50 minutes and even in this case the musical quality is very high....
I prefer not to name the bad examples of both trends (long or short albums) as each of us has his/her personal ideas about this...... but it's a matter of fact that we could find bad albums (or better... albums we dislike) 40 or 80 minutes long.
Agreed. I was really referring to my personal preference for lengths of albums. Growing up with vinyl, I'm used to 2 sides of approx 20 mins..!! I still maintain though that
most albums of 60-80 mins or whatever contain at least
some filler material.
If bands record so much material, then I'd prefer to see a main disc of around 40-50 mins with a bonus disc of the rest, just to keep the top drawer tracks separate ;D
I like SG - more than DT (because SDOIT / ToT / Octavarium - don´t like them all)
Room V is a great album -typical Shadow Gallery but nevertheless great.
My favourite SG song is "Destination Unknown". I love the Voice of Mike Baker (and was glad he sung for Arjen ;) )
And the lengths of an Album... hmmm, some shorties like Dark Matter (IQ) and Blackfield are o.k. - great music, but when the CD ends, somethings missing, it´s too short
it leaves with the feeling there must be more....without changing CD ;)
Quote from: Moonloop on Thu, 2005-10-13, 15:13:13
Agreed. I was really referring to my personal preference for lengths of albums. Growing up with vinyl, I'm used to 2 sides of approx 20 mins..!!
I also grew up with vinyl, and I always hoped that the next album by fav band at the time would release a double or even triple disc, as just I as I was getting into the album it would finish.
So I'm one of the ones who prefer the longer cd's (as well as epic tracks), to me all cd's hould be the length of Ayreons "The Human Equation" 100 mins+ (Double disc's), but then I'm just greedy or is it too lazy to change keep changing discs.
"Mostly Autumn" (my fav band) , their latest release "Storms over still water" clocks in at apporx 52 mins, whilst all the others over the magic hour, but thank good no reduction in quality.
Quote from: Moonloop on Thu, 2005-10-13, 15:13:13
I still maintain though that most albums of 60-80 mins or whatever contain at least some filler material.
If bands record so much material, then I'd prefer to see a main disc of around 40-50 mins with a bonus disc of the rest, just to keep the top drawer tracks separate ;D
100% agree... I wasn't able to explain so clearly.... :D
Yes.... in longs album there is too often filler material...... but it's better a bonus CD than lose that material at all!!!!
A clear example I think are The Flower Kings.... though they are one my fav. band of all, I have to admit that all their albums (especially the double ones!!!) contain filler material wich, nevertheless, I would be disappointed if it had to be cut out from the album....... The solution of the bonus CD is ever the best...... ;D ;D
Bye.
Spad.
Quote from: sotonrobin on Thu, 2005-10-13, 16:13:32
"Mostly Autumn" (my fav band) , their latest release "Storms over still water" clocks in at apporx 52 mins, whilst all the others over the magic hour, but thank good no reduction in quality.
Interesting you should say that, can't really think of any filler on any of the MA albums (LOTR excepted) but I'd much prefer the new one if the last track wasn't on it - seems superfluous to me and spoils the high of the penultimate track :)
Incidentally, are you getting Iain Jennings solo album..?? I'm expecting it any day now - very curious as to what musical style it will be 8)
Quote from: Spad on Thu, 2005-10-13, 16:15:50
100% agree... I wasn't able to explain so clearly.... :D
Yes.... in longs album there is too often filler material...... but it's better a bonus CD than lose that material at all!!!!
A clear example I think are The Flower Kings.... though they are one my fav. band of all, I have to admit that all their albums (especially the double ones!!!) contain filler material wich, nevertheless, I would be disappointed if it had to be cut out from the album....... The solution of the bonus CD is ever the best...... ;D ;D
Bye.
Spad.
TFK are a great band and example..!! "Unfold The Future" is two 78 minute discs. REALLY heavy going - and it's
still in my new releases pile ;D
Quote from: Moonloop on Thu, 2005-10-13, 16:41:32
TFK are a great band and example..!! "Unfold The Future" is two 78 minute discs. REALLY heavy going - and it's still in my new releases pile ;D
Yeah!!! "Unfold The Future" is probably my favourite Kings' album and "The Truth Will Set You Free", I'll never be tired of repeating it, is (ever IMO of course... ) the best epic ever composed!!!!
I can only suggest you to listen to Unfold little by little, starting for example just with The Truth considering it the entire album.......!! ;)
Neverhteless it's avery heavy listening in its entirety......
Quote from: Moonloop on Thu, 2005-10-13, 16:39:01
Interesting you should say that, can't really think of any filler on any of the MA albums (LOTR excepted) but I'd much prefer the new one if the last track wasn't on it - seems superfluous to me and spoils the high of the penultimate track :)
Incidentally, are you getting Iain Jennings solo album..?? I'm expecting it any day now - very curious as to what musical style it will be 8)
I agree with you about the 'Tomorrow' (the last track), as much as I like the track It shouldn't be the final track, or at least not following 'Carpe Diem' (my fav. on the cd) and the title track 'Storms over still water'. It's as if they are trying to copy Genesis's 'Wind and Wuthering' with the final medley instrumental 'Los Endos'.
As too Iain Jennings I am waiting for the solo album to arrive, I was hoping to get it the last time I saw them, but the usual story when you're waiting for something 'It has been delayed', just like the Stream of Passion's 'Embrace the Storm'. It should be interesting listening to Olivia Sparnen instead of Heather Findlay with the MA boys (Well some of them). If she sings half as good as she looked the other night then Wow.
Quote from: sotonrobin on Thu, 2005-10-13, 16:13:32
I also grew up with vinyl, and I always hoped that the next album by fav band at the time would release a double or even triple disc, as just I as I was getting into the album it would finish.
So I'm one of the ones who prefer the longer cd's (as well as epic tracks), to me all cd's hould be the length of Ayreons "The Human Equation" 100 mins+ (Double disc's), but then I'm just greedy or is it too lazy to change keep changing discs.
I completely agree. It seems that most good albums tend to end too quickly leaving the listener wanting more. I felt that way with Contagion, until I discovered that there were two EPs coming.
Quote from: Wilford Jr. on Thu, 2005-10-13, 22:29:30
I completely agree. It seems that most good albums tend to end too quickly leaving the listener wanting more. I felt that way with Contagion, until I discovered that there were two EPs coming.
I think leaving the listener wanting more is better than leaving him satisfied. (full, fed up, not wanting more.. depends on how you put it. but wanting more sounds good, though!?)
A very old thread, but why open a new one when there's an old one?
Just read this news from Shadow Gallery (blog on their MySpace):
Update - short and simple
July 22, 2009
The band is at the mixing stage for their new album.
A release date will be posted in two weeks.
Great news 8). I'm so curious who will replace the fantastic voice of Mike Baker.
Quote from: Teunis on Wed, 2009-07-22, 20:39:11
A very old thread, but why open a new one when there's an old one?
Just read this news from Shadow Gallery (blog on their MySpace):
Update - short and simple
July 22, 2009
The band is at the mixing stage for their new album.
A release date will be posted in two weeks.
Great news 8). I'm so curious who will replace the fantastic voice of Mike Baker.
I know a few things about this.
It's very likely that Brent Altman, Carl Cadden-james and Gary Wehrkamp will sing on this album, which if all goes well will be released around October this year.
There will be at least one guest appearance on the album and that is likely to be D.C. Cooper.
I've read on the Facebook-page of Shadow Gallery that the recording time has finished and it's now mixing time.
Not long to wait i guess.
I still hope and even pray that Mike has recorded some demo's and that the band will use that on the album.
It'll be a great farewell if the album would end with a song with Mike on it! 8)
Time will tell.
The tragedy is that they just started to work on the album when Mike died.
I'm veryyy anxiously waiting this release, i can tell you.
Quote from: maddox on Wed, 2009-07-22, 22:42:38
It's very likely that Brent Altman, Carl Cadden-james and Gary Wehrkamp will sing on this album, which if all goes well will be released around October this year.
There will be at least one guest appearance on the album and that is likely to be D.C. Cooper.
Ok, thanks for the info.
Quote from: maddox on Wed, 2009-07-22, 22:42:38
I still hope and even pray that Mike has recorded some demo's and that the band will use that on the album.
It'll be a great farewell if the album would end with a song with Mike on it! 8)
Time will tell. The tragedy is that they just started to work on the album when Mike died.
I was hoping too that already a few songs were recorded with Mike. We'll see.
Quote from: maddox on Wed, 2009-07-22, 22:42:38
I'm veryyy anxiously waiting this release, i can tell you.
+1 *horns*
Announcement from Gary Wehrkamp:
Quote from: GaryHEY Everyone!
It has been a long time since I have been here.
Yes, the rumors are true- Shadow Gallery has completed a new record.
Just 30 minutes ago, I finished the final reference mix.
If I drank beer, I would be having one right now, toasting myself to the reduction in studio hours I can expect starting tomorrow!
The last 12 days have been sub-mixing here at New Horizon Music Studios, but the real magic is still happening with Rich Mouser at Mousehouse Studios who is doing the final stages prior to Mastering which is next and scheduled for roughly a week or two from now.
It is too soon to state release dates yet, but it could be late October or early November.
I will check back here next week sometime and give you guys some more information if I can. We are not announcing singers or song titles yet, so you'll have to wait on that.
Carl, Brendt and myself do sing more on this album, but we are not the main lead vocalist. You will hear a lot of our voices on this record though. I think Brendt and I added more BG vocals on this record than any other.
There are a few guests and changes on this record and this information will be posted when the promotion gets underway.
It has been really wonderful to hear the encouragement from so many, asking us to continue. Moving on without your lead singer and good friend was not an easy task for us, but we are very pleased with this new record and are excited about all of you hearing it.
As always, thanks for your patience and support.
Peace and Love-
Gary Wehrkamp
So i was partly right on this one.
The three of them are doing the vocals but there are some guest-vocalists on the album.
Me verrrrrrrryyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy curious! *horns*
Quote from: maddox on Tue, 2009-07-28, 23:23:26
Announcement from Gary Wehrkamp:
So i was partly right on this one.
The three of them are doing the vocals but there are some guest-vocalists on the album.
Me verrrrrrrryyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy curious! *horns*
Me too. Fantastic news.
This will be a difficult album to relate to. I've been so strongly touched by Mike Baker's voice along with SG music, that I'm gonna have a hard time, a very emotional and difficult one, putting on this new album the first time.
Quote from: Deenfan on Tue, 2009-09-08, 13:12:00
This will be a difficult album to relate to. I've been so strongly touched by Mike Baker's voice along with SG music, that I'm gonna have a hard time, a very emotional and difficult one, putting on this new album the first time.
I can imagine that, Deeny. :(
Though i do think that you should see this in the most positive way ( sounds strange, i know ) and believe that this could be the best tribute to Mike than anyone could ever make.
I know that they have to go on making the album they'd started working on when he died, and I can imagine he'd want the guys to continue. Still... But here's to the hope that they find he's recorded some lines at home, that they can use, so we can hear him just one more time.
Quote from: Deenfan on Thu, 2009-09-10, 17:21:41
I know that they have to go on making the album they'd started working on when he died, and I can imagine he'd want the guys to continue. Still... But here's to the hope that they find he's recorded some lines at home, that they can use, so we can hear him just one more time.
That would be awesome indeed. 8)
I just found out that there's a short trailer online of the new album.
Here's the link. (http://shadowgallery.com/)
The name of the new album will be:
Digital GhostsRelease date: November 3, InsideOut music.
Nice title. Really can't wait for this release. 8) 8) 8)
Huh. That title might actually mean that he's on there somewhere...
Quote from: maddox on Tue, 2009-09-08, 21:03:51
... believe that this could be the best tribute to Mike than anyone could ever make.
8) Mad
Yes, I think one should see prog as our spiritual blood ... that binds us across
all barriers (Atlantic, astral, and all other oceans) :)
I'm sure there'l be several references to Mike on the album - to be discovered by the true SG fan ;)
Just like the Floyd guys had all those wonderful references to Syd :)
Nicky.
This is what I just read on DPRP.net:
Also, on the Shadow Gallery forum, Gary Wehrkamp said this:
"all questions to be answered in time... soon another trailer in less than a week.. We hope to have a new one every week - then also longer audio clips up inside of two weeks. Thanks for the interest everyone.. I can tell you we are very excited about sharing this disc with you. There is also a special edition disc with 4 extra songs, including some with mike singing..."
I want the special edition!! *horns* 8)
Quote from: Teunis on Mon, 2009-09-14, 21:48:31
I want the special edition!! *horns* 8)
Yep, me too. *horns* *horns* *horns*
According to SG's MySpace blog: NEXT Digital Ghosts Video Clip coming Friday Sept 17. 8)
... ... what to say... it'll be interesting, and it's starting to look good.
http://forum.yourmajesty.net/viewtopic.php?t=1539&start=150
I would lie telling that I find the cover astonishing but it's not so bad either. Really dark, though.
Pretty darn cool, if you ask me.
I was a bit surprised to find that the Logo of Shadow Gallery, you know the font type, has been changed.
I asked Gary W. about it and he replied: New album, new line up, new logo.
Clear enough. :D
New Trailer/teaser online! (http://shadowgallery.com/)
With band photo by the way. :wink:
A cookie to anyone who knows who the fifth band member is. ???
Okay, time for some more news:
Quote from: Shadow Gallery ForumSHADOW GALLERY: new album "Digital Ghosts" to be released October 26th (Europe) and November 3rd (North America) via InsideOutMusic; launch cover artwork!
SHADOW GALLERY, widely considered a major and innovative force within the realms of progressive rock and metal, have returned with their 6th studio effort "Digital Ghosts". Following up 2005's "Room V" as well as the "Prime Cuts" compilation release of material from previous albums in 2007, "Digital Ghosts" will be released on October 26th, 2009 in Europe and November 3rd, 2009 in North America via InsideOutMusic.
After the tragic passing of lead singer Mike Baker in October 2008, "Digital Ghosts" introduces new lead singer Brian Ashland and not only sees the entire band once again sharing additional vocal duties but also features guest vocal appearances by Ralf Scheepers (Primal Fear) and Clay Barton (Suspyre) to compliment the release. With "Digital Ghosts", Shadow GallerY's members Brendt Allman, Carl Cadden-James, Gary Wehrkamp, new addition Brian Ashland and returning drummer Joe Nevolo (who appears on two songs of the record) have focused their powerful energies on creating a seamless blend of progressive, metal, and symphonic rock as a transcendent work of musical art that advances the boundaries of these genres into new directions.
Guitarist / Keyboardist Gary Wehrkamp comments on "Digital Ghosts" as follows:
"As a band, we are thrilled to have new music to share with everyone. This album is a dedication to our wonderful fans, and also to the memory of our singer and friend Mike Baker.
We had to deal with a few tragic events during the course of this recording, but pressing on we approached the production the way we always do: Trying to provide our very best. We had a terrific time making this record and hope all the emotion and love we put into it endures, transcends and touches every one who is ready for it.
You can expect some shades of a new direction on this record. We had long been trying to incorporate more prog elements and the time was right to stretch out a little bit, while remaining true to the heavy and powerful rock based songs that have been a staple of SHADOW GALLERY since the earliest days".
The track-listing for the album reads as follows:
SHADOW GALLERY – "Digital Ghosts":
1. With Honor
2. Venom
3. Pain
4. Gold Dust
5. Strong
6. Digital Ghost
7. Haunted
Two small first video teasers for "Digital Ghosts" can be viewed on the band's youtube channel:
www.youtube.com/shadowgallerymusic
More details as well as music samples for "Digital Ghosts" will be available in the coming weeks.
In the meantime, please visit:
www.shadowgallery.com
www.myspace.com/officialshadowgallery
www.youtube.com/shadowgallerymusic
And:
www.insideout.de
So, a new singer. Never heard of this fellow. He must be quite good i'd say, to even begin to fill the void Mike left behind.
I'm also surprised that Joe Nevolo will only play drums on two tracks. I thought he was a full member of SG. Apparently not.
Be that as it may, i'm still eagerly waiting for this release!!!
Quote from: maddox on Fri, 2009-09-18, 23:46:56
So, a new singer. Never heard of this fellow. He must be quite good i'd say, to even begin to fill the void Mike left behind.
Don't know him. Googled a bit and found a MySpace profile of a band with a Brian Ashland, but he only does backing vocals. And no music added to this profile, doesn't help either ;). Here's the link: http://www.myspace.com/avedisband
Quote from: maddox on Fri, 2009-09-18, 23:46:56
Be that as it may, i'm still eagerly waiting for this release!!!
+1 *horns*
Ashland, eh?
Well, I hate him. Haven't heard of him, haven't heard a note of his singing, and yes, I am a very stubborn, unreasonable little man right now.
I need a toilet.
Bloody hell.
Quote from: Deenfan on Tue, 2009-09-22, 01:13:38
Ashland, eh?
Well, I hate him. Haven't heard of him, haven't heard a note of his singing, and yes, I am a very stubborn, unreasonable little man right now.
I need a toilet.
Bloody hell.
Have you been hacked? ??? ::) ;)
Another SG blog:
NEW Digital Ghosts Video and Audio Clips coming Friday Sept 25. Stay tuned on http://www.shadowgallery.com
Quote from: Deenfan on Tue, 2009-09-22, 01:13:38
Ashland, eh?
Well, I hate him. Haven't heard of him, haven't heard a note of his singing, and yes, I am a very stubborn, unreasonable little man right now.
I need a toilet.
Bloody hell.
In the past years i've begin to know you a bit so for me it's safe to say that you're joking. ;)
Right? :-\
Well, I am being satirical about my own feelings. Definitely. But take away all the correction performed by reason, social training and wisdom, and you're left with an instinctive disliking towards anyone who materializes as the one supposed to replace Mike Baker.
Now, a measure of wisdom and reason is still present, so it'll be alright. The problem isn't that he's replaced, but that he's irretrievably gone, and I do of course realize that.
It'll also be easier to hear new material with this guy singing, than it'd be to hear any mortal trying to do "Don't ever cry, just remember". I hope that is something I will never have to witness.
You can now hear the full track 'Gold Dust' on SG's MySpace:
http://www.myspace.com/officialshadowgallery
Two more weeks till the (European) release *horns*
Oooooohhhhh........ I never do stuff like this...... but since it's them, since it's you, and since I've already ordered it, and since it's not gonna be like before, ever again anyway... I will click on the link and listen to the song :-\
Quote from: Deenfan on Sun, 2009-10-11, 19:18:54
Oooooohhhhh........ I never do stuff like this...... but since it's them, since it's you, and since I've already ordered it, and since it's not gonna be like before, ever again anyway... I will click on the link and listen to the song :-\
And? ;)
I personally like it.
As i already said elsewhere, Brain Ashland is a combination of Mike and Geoff Tate but don't really know if that's a good thing.
It seems to me that they are playing safe. :-\
Didn't expected that.
He does has a good voice though and i like the song. It reminds me of early Shadow Gallery.
Well, it starts out unnecessarily hard and fast. I hope it is a cool diversion, and that they aren't turning all DT on me. Else, the singer... Doesn't sound bad. In fact, he sounds like he's gonna take a while to get my head around. This is potentially very good. Could mean he's got the X factor.
Let's see. I'm a bit under the weather from this emotional hardship.
But yes, I can tell it's SG, and I also felt a shadow of the past roaming the gallery. And that is good, 'cause as with a few other bands I can mention, the strongest magic is in the first two albums...
Quote from: Deenfan on Sun, 2009-10-11, 19:27:04
... they aren't turning all DT on me ...
Quote from: Deenfan on Sun, 2009-10-11, 19:27:04
... 'cause as with a few other bands I can mention, the strongest magic is in the first two albums ...
::) >:( :P
You'r
so mean, Deenie - such a Mean-Deenie ;D
But yer English is first-rate *horns*
Now that's what makes a
real black magician: intelligence combined with meanness !!!
:P
Nicky.
Have you guys already checked out Shadow Gallery's cool new website? 8)
Tom
8) indeed. I'm not sure yes about this part:
Thanks to InsideOut and french webzine Heavylaw, the new album "Digital Ghosts" will have an exclusive listening session on www.heavylaw.com. It will take place on Wednesday 21 October, for only 24 hours!
It's free for everyone, you just have to go at www.heavylaw.com and push play button on the player.
Already pre-ordered the album, should I listen or should I wait till I hold the cd in my hands ??? ;).
@Nicky: :-[ ;D...... 8).... ::)... :P
Look at the new trailer/teaser. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NyNbwYZOlV8)
Sounds good. 8)
Yup *horns*
Lookin forward to the album :)
Nicky.
Quote from: maddox on Sun, 2009-10-11, 19:24:13
Brain Ashland
Well, hope he has one ::)
But else DG is a no-brainer *horns*
Nicky.
:D Nicky, have you been drinking? If yes, what ever you've had up until the point of typing that, you've consumed the perfect amount of it. ;D
Quote from: Deenfan on Thu, 2009-10-22, 17:23:30
:D Nicky, have you been drinking?
Nope. I actually never go into the Room when I'v been drinking (substantially). That's why I'm always sooo polite ;D
Nicky.
My God... I wonder how my posts would look like if I drank first... :-[
Got a mail today that 'Digital Ghosts' is on its way to me, hope to enjoy it tomorrow *horns* 8).
Quote from: Teunis on Fri, 2009-10-23, 21:34:24
Got a mail today that 'Digital Ghosts' is on its way to me, hope to enjoy it tomorrow *horns* 8).
Same here.
Along with the new Transatlantic.
Spiffy weekend. ;D
You guys are no fun! >:(
(I have no such mail in my inbox... :-[ :-X :-\ :'()
Quote from: Deenfan on Sat, 2009-10-24, 22:04:58
You guys are no fun! >:(
(I have no such mail in my inbox... :-[ :-X :-\ :'()
Better yet, though unfortunately for you, i even received it today. :-\
Haven't played it yet though.
I'm a bit afraid to do so.
To scared it would disappoint me. :-\
Hm. Yup. Not easy, this one.
I think you should make sure you're left alone, and able to play through it at least twice. And a couple of runs tomorrow, too. I think that would help. It's no good listening to such a thing "unproperly"... :)
Playing it for the second time right now. Don't have to be scared, it rocks *horns*. The only song I have to get used to is 'Strong'. The vocalist Ralf Scheepers is a bit too screamy for my taste I'm afraid ::).
I've decided today that i will listen to the album on October 29th. :(
For obvious reasons.
:-\ Good thought. I will join you, in spirit. Hope it'll arrive until that day.
Quote from: Deenfan on Sun, 2009-10-25, 21:34:23
:-\ Good thought. I will join you, in spirit. Hope it'll arrive until that day.
Did it arrive on time, Deenie?
Hope so. ..
Just had my first listen of the album.
Don't know what to think yet. :-\
Neither do I. But for the time being, that's because I haven't got it yet. Oh well. It was a small, if special point anyway.
Today, it finally arrived. That is, the copy I ordered after getting a bit impatient. The one I pre-ordered is nowhere to be seen as yet. Knowing the devil and his antics, it'll probably pop up tomorrow...
I don't know when I will be having my first listen to it. Maybe tonight, to put it Magnumly. I know I will listen only to the two Mike Baker songs at first, though. Those are the major highlights or occasions in this. If fact, as long as do have those to listen to, and they are good, I don't mind whether the album itself is very good or not. I hope it is, but if it isn't, it'll be one of the least SG related letdowns over these last 12 months or so...
Quote from: Moonloop on Thu, 2005-10-13, 08:55:00
Very true - and they're usually the better ones ;)
That's a matter of opinion! ;)
Wow, Matt! :D
You replied to a 4-year old message. :D :D :D
Are you desperate for a higher post count? ;D ;)
Quote from: maddox on Thu, 2009-11-19, 20:21:08
You replied to a 4-year old message. :D :D :D
I can't say I ever remember looking on this thread before...
Quote from: maddox on Thu, 2009-11-19, 20:21:08
Are you desperate for a higher post count? ;D ;)
Not desperate, no. But let's face it, with all the 'time off' I've had, since I joined 4 (!) years ago, I must have some catching up to do! ;D ;)
5 listens or more now. And there's a furrowed brow and a "hmmm" going on.
Quote from: Deenfan on Tue, 2009-11-24, 11:48:15
5 listens or more now. And there's a furrowed brow and a "hmmm" going on.
Stick with it
I kind of have the same problem with the album.
Tracks like Pain and Haunted are great but Strong is, due to the help of Primal Scream singer Ralph ... strange and although it does have a nice touch, the song With Honor jumps from one prog-plain to another.
I really don't know yet.
Even after one month.
I know it's the least brilliant album they've ever released. That was to be expected. But that doesn't mean it can't be very good. An album could be damn near superb, and still be worse than any other SG album.
So let's see.
But the hardest parts are mince, and should have been removed. Backwards neanderthal bashing on the drums has been horrid for as long as it has been done. It's not going to be good on this album, either.
You sure got principles, Deenie - man !!! ::)
Nicky.
Well, one's got some easy rules to play by. For instance, if I think it sounds crap - I don't like it. If I don't like it - it won't do me any good. Things not doing me any good - I don't willingly bother myself with.
Pretty lemon squeezy, really. ;)
Actually: No !
The music I like best today is for the most part stuff that I didnt like intitially and that usually took me years to acquire a taste for, like Dream Theater, Nevermore, Queensrÿche, Priest, and many more groups. Often I was helped by enthusiastic Room posts, particularly with DT.
Being proggie means continually taking up new challenges *horns*
Else one becomes a self-righteous sourpuss ;)
Nicky.
Quote from: Nicky007 on Fri, 2009-11-27, 12:50:52
Actually: No !
The music I like best today is for the most part stuff that I didnt like intitially and that usually took me years to acquire a taste for, like Dream Theater, Nevermore, Queensrÿche, Priest, and many more groups. Often I was helped by enthusiastic Room posts, particularly with DT.
Being proggie means continuously taking up new challenges *horns*
Else one becomes a self-righteous sourpuss ;)
Nicky.
Good call Nicky. Anyone who can get into Yes straight away has my highest regard. It certainly took a while.
I actually find the music that took the longest to like stays with me the longest. If you know what I mean.
It is a bit like Bitter (the beer) I don't know anyone who liked it the first time, it sort of grows on you until you really like it.
Heavy stuff, Nicky. I've grown into liking quite a few things that I wasn't sure about to begin with, but some things I've digested completely without aquiring a taste for it. I do understand many things I don't like. I know them. I've heard them for thirty years, being done over and over in various settings, in many variations. I've "gotten" 'em. I can even play a lot of them, myself. So there is no need to check it out further. I know the difference between what I don't like and what I don't "get" yet.
Compulsory embracement of everything is just a sign of being without any taste at all.
Over to you. ;)
Now this is the Shadow Gallery thread, and altho I'm sure that the SG guys would enjoy a lively discussion on music, I'l keep it short here.
I agree that
Quote from: Deenfan on Sat, 2009-11-28, 21:17:13
embracement of everything is just a sign of being without any taste at all.
I think the decisive factor is how passionate one is about music. Most of my life, music has been essential to me, so I'v been on a constant outlook for great music. And fortunately, these times are a playground for proggies *horns*
I think my prog pantheon reflects both the diversity I seek in music plus my insistence on quality.
I have no other principles than quality, and if I realise that an antipathy bars my way to some great stuff, than I work on my antipathy :-\
And what is quality ? That's a hard on
e. Guess it means mastering ones instrument and genre(s),
and having an ear for that very elusive magic thingy called
music ;)
It appears that where I
differ from other Roomies (and from Ms 007) is that I go for what I'd call
big music: Music that's sweeping in scope, lyrically, musically, graphically, and in all other ways, but of course also with an insistence on detail. Examples: Priest's Nostradamus, Loomis' Zero Order Phase (no lyrics there, none necessary), Ten's Twilight Chronicles, and Arena's Contagion (kiddin with the last one, of course) :)
Nicky.
This is turning out to be a very good discussion. But it's probably also run its course. I see no reason to work on antipathies, unless they are purely conjured-up compulsive reactions that will only bring you a lot of bother. Maybe I'm not talking about antipathies, either, but about things that truly hit the wrong strings inside. These elements of music are how they are, and I'd be very careful about changing the inner strings. They are a part of who you are, deep inside. I prefer music to be pleasing, inspiring and comforting me. Not punch me in the gut and double-fucking-dare me and challenge me. I don't need that. Life is like that already. Music is a haven. It is my inner Eden.
I guess... There's a snake there, and that is fine, but I prefer it doesn't frequently force a rotten apple down my throat. To put it that way.
What ever new Shadow Gallery brings along this time, I'll give ample time and many chances. They've shown already that they're worth it. What ever good ol' SG-ery goes on, I'm fairly pleased about, as long as it's not a replica of older songs. What ever old and well recognizable stuff they bring along, that is only new to SG, is not new. It's nothing I need to re-analyze. If I already like it, I'll like it coming from SG. (Though I'd be mildly surprised to find a speed metal Chris de Burgh chorus on any of the songs...). If I already hate it, I'll hate it coming from SG. With a vengeance. Because this time, I care. What crap Arse Revolta or Nickleodeonback fill their albums with, I'm happy to say, isn't likely to bring me any heartache.
I started to listen to Shadow Gallery too and I like it, although I am not really into their latest album yet maybe that will come...
Quote from: Herben on Tue, 2011-08-30, 20:20:13
I started to listen to Shadow Gallery too and I like it, although I am not really into their latest album yet maybe that will come...
I've only heard their first album and liked it quite a bit. I think I need to listen to more albums. Too bad their former singer is no more. :(
Good to see you back Herben! ;)