Being an anoraky kind of guy, these things just fall out of the database...
Top ten bands by album ownership. Includes CD & download equivalents, but excludes vinyl and singles.
53 T. Rex
50 Jethro Tull
46 Marillion
41 Deep Purple
29 Yes
29 Hammill, Peter
27 Rush
26 Bowie, David
26 Ozric Tentacles
23 Genesis
I'm suprised Marillion aren't top, to be honest. I wonder if I've got everything entered in the geek-o-matic? ;D
:o :o :o :o :o
Goodness gracious, i have no idea!
I presume Dream Theater but that would include bootlegs as well but i've got a lot of Genesis too for instance. Or Pink Floyd.
Must search and most of all, count the Mad's Database.
I guess it has to be Beethoven!! Lol....Inherited from my mum but they are all by different orchestras/ string quartets etc.
Rock wise i guess it has to be Asia i have most albums by although most are from the John Payne era. I have most Porcupine Tree albums too.
Toto (20+) albums, followed by Pendragon. The other (prog) bands I like haven't released that much albums, unfortunately ;D.
1: Dream Theater : 43 items. I only included the official releases (official bootlegs as well) otherwise I'm sure I would easily surpass the 100-mark (yes really!).
2: Marillion: 40 items
3: Arena: 22 items
Tom
I'm a bit puzzled by all this. I already knew Steve had a big collection, but I would never have guessed that there were anything approaching 53 T. Rex albums to be had, and even counting all the Arena items listed in the Verglas store and including EPs and DVDs, I can't locate 22. My biggest lists, probably R.E.M. and Genesis, might possibly scrape up a total of 20 if I include compilations and EPs (I assume counting double for ones I have on both LP and CD is not allowed). What am I missing?
Quote from: Manatee on Sun, 2009-05-17, 20:05:45
...counting all the Arena items listed in the Verglas store and including EPs and DVDs, I can't locate 22.
Well, see for yourself, here is my Arena-collection:
- Songs From The Lions Cage
- Pride
- The Edits
- The Cry (EP)
- Welcome To The Stage
- Welcome (Back!) To The Stage (fanclub-cd)
- The Visitor
- The Visitor Revisited (fanclub-cd)
- Immortal?
- Unlocking The Cage (fanclub-cd)
- Breakfast In Biarritz
- Contagion (promotional copy)
- Contagion
- Contagious (EP)
- Contagium (EP)
- Caught In The Act (DVD)
- Radiance (fanclub-cd)
- Live & Life
- Pepper's Ghost (promotional copy)
- Pepper's Ghost
- Smoke & Mirrors (DVD)
- Ten Years On
Tom
Which means that you're cheating, Tom. ;D
The question was 'most Albums'. Caught and Smoke are no albums, i'm sure you know that as well. :D
Quote from: The Butterfly Man on Sun, 2009-05-17, 20:11:35
Well, see for yourself, here is my Arena-collection:
- Songs From The Lions Cage
- Pride
- The Edits
- The Cry (EP)
- Welcome To The Stage
- Welcome (Back!) To The Stage (fanclub-cd)
- The Visitor
- The Visitor Revisited (fanclub-cd)
- Immortal?
- Unlocking The Cage (fanclub-cd)
- Breakfast In Biarritz
- Contagion (promotional copy)
- Contagion
- Contagious (EP)
- Contagium (EP)
- Caught In The Act (DVD)
- Radiance (fanclub-cd)
- Live & Life
- Pepper's Ghost (promotional copy)
- Pepper's Ghost
- Smoke & Mirrors (DVD)
- Ten Years On
Tom
From that list, i miss the underlined ones.
I'm not really searching for the promotional-editions but if someone can help me with the Fan-clup cd's (especially Welcome Back) i'd be eternally thankful. :D
Quote from: maddox on Sun, 2009-05-17, 20:15:48
Which means that you're cheating, Tom. ;D
The question was 'most Albums'. Caught and Smoke are no albums, i'm sure you know that as well. :D
Okay fine, then I have 20 Arena-albums! ;D
Tom
Quote from: The Butterfly Man on Sun, 2009-05-17, 20:11:35
Well, see for yourself, here is my Arena-collection:
- Songs From The Lions Cage
- Pride
- The Edits
- The Cry (EP)
- Welcome To The Stage
- Welcome (Back!) To The Stage (fanclub-cd)
- The Visitor
- The Visitor Revisited (fanclub-cd)
- Immortal?
- Unlocking The Cage (fanclub-cd)
- Breakfast In Biarritz
- Contagion (promotional copy)
- Contagion
- Contagious (EP)
- Contagium (EP)
- Caught In The Act (DVD)
- Radiance (fanclub-cd)
- Live & Life
- Pepper's Ghost (promotional copy)
- Pepper's Ghost
- Smoke & Mirrors (DVD)
- Ten Years On
Tom
Hmm, it would seem I need to join some fan club and become friends with people who distribute promotional copies. ;D
Quote from: Manatee on Sun, 2009-05-17, 20:05:45
I would never have guessed that there were anything approaching 53 T. Rex albums to be had
T. Rex are a bit of anomaly for me as they were the first band I ever got into back in the very early 70s and I've had a bit of a collector thing going over the years. There are very few I actually play, as I said it's more of a collector thing. Other bands, of course, I play to death! ;D
The other thing with T. Rex is the catalogue has been milked and re-milked over the years. As well as many CD of unreleased/demo stuff (8 volumes of the 'Unchained' series, just to name one) there have been the usual anniversary editions, live albums, TV program soundtracks, etc, etc. I gave up collecting them around the turn of the century as I got fed up of buying the same tracks in a slightly different order. I've since had the sign saying 'sucker' surgically removed from my head ;)
I count myself lucky to have seen T. Rex/Bolan before he died, and he put on a damn good show. He also had The Damned as support, which was cool *horns*
Quote from: Manatee on Sat, 2009-05-16, 22:40:39
:o :o :o :o :o
I would even say :
:o :o :o :o :o :o
Quote from: Teunis on Sun, 2009-05-17, 15:23:58
Toto (20+) albums, followed by Pendragon. The other (prog) bands I like haven't released that much albums, unfortunately ;D.
Toto : more than 20 ? What am I missing ??? I am only up to 18 with all their official releases (19 if you include the
Dune soundtrack).
Back to Steve's initial question : I am not a sucker for bootlegs but I like to have the complete official discography of my favorite bands. Which means that I have all Toto, Kansas and Dream Theater studio and live albums. I also have most of Marillion' studio albums (just missing
.Com and
Happiness). But to show that I am not a collector, when I purchased the two cds remastered versions of Marillion's albums, I gave or sold the single cd original versions.
In that case, i have 19 Arena items and that includes no promo copies!! But then they are my favourite band!
The bands I have most albums by are classic bands with a big catalog. Now I aint gonna count my cd's, partly cause I have some lent out, and partly cause I'm at the library. You'r gonna have to make do with a prose account.
I have all Floyd studio and movie soundtrack albums, and most live albums, plus all solo-albums by the guys, except Rick Wright's first (which I'l get sometime (hard to find)). That'l be some 40-50 albums.
All Zep albums (+ a couple of great live dvd's), all Robert Plant and Jimmy Page albums, over 20.
All Queen studio albums minus two, incl. The Cosmos Rocks, and Brian May's Back To The Light.
All Yes albums minus one (also several live albums), plus all Jon and Vangelis.
All Genesis except the first two and last two, plus several Hackett's and Gabriel's.
All official Arena studio and live albums, plus Caamora She, Kino, and Milliontown.
All DT (except first, can't stand the vocals), Nevermore, Tool, PT, and Spock's studio albums
All Threshold, Pearl Jam, and over ten Marillion (all Fish and most H) albums too.
All Queensrÿche from The Warning to OM II, plus one live.
All Zep, and Beatles from Rubber Soul on.
That should cover my biggest single-band collections.
Quote from: Steve Jones on Sun, 2009-05-17, 23:54:38
... as I got fed up of buying the same tracks in a slightly different order.
;D ;D ;D
Nicky.
Quote from: Bupie on Mon, 2009-05-18, 10:53:20
Toto : more than 20 ? What am I missing ??? I am only up to 18 with all their official releases (19 if you include the Dune soundtrack).
Indeed, Dune is included and two bootlegs: 'Runaway' and 'Papa Was A Sexy Dancer' ;D
Quote from: Teunis on Mon, 2009-05-18, 20:02:24
Indeed, Dune is included and two bootlegs: 'Runaway' and 'Papa Was A Sexy Dancer' ;D
Dune?
The Movie?
Did TOTO did the soundtrack? ???
Hmmm...
I guess I'm not much of a completist after all.
To be honest, I only do studio albums... :-[
I have all studio albums of Dream Theater (except the very first one).
I guess that's the band that I've got the most albums of.
Quote from: PH on Mon, 2009-05-18, 21:34:51
Hmmm...
I guess I'm not much of a completist after all.
To be honest, I only do studio albums... :-[
I think Genesis cured me of being a completist (while I was still buying them on vinyl). I had to have everything of theirs since they were my favorite band, but then when they finally became pretty much just a pop band (ok, I held out hope for another album or two after that), I finally didn't bother to get the last couple. I skipped a couple of recent R.E.M. albums too (although I got the most recent, and while not a total return to form, it's pretty good), not because they'd become poppy, but just because the stuff they had been putting out at the time was frankly not very good. Neil Young is someone I like a lot, who I was never a completist with. He's got some wonderful stuff, but he's always been hit and miss as far as his albums go (and he's got a lot of them).
I'm with you somewhat on the only studio album thing -- I do get an occasional live album, but I'm usually in no hurry to get those unless they've got a good bit of unreleased material or have gotten raves as great performances. I find that prog bands especially often sound much the same on live recordings as they do on the studio versions. That's both good and bad -- it means the musicians live are living up to the high standards they set in the studio, but it also means that if you have the studio version, the live one may not be "essential" to have as well. I've read (although I do not own the live one) that IQ's live Subterranea sounds almost exactly the same as the studio album -- certainly not a bad way to sound, but do we need them both? As with all such pronouncements, there are exceptions, of course -- Jethro Tull's
Bursting Out is a great live album, largely because Ian Anderson's showmanship and personality come through. Also, this may be less true with prog metal since the nature of the music may make it more natural to "rock out" live. Anyway, I'm not saying live albums are bad; I'm just sort of agreeing with Paco (assuming this is what he meant) that if you've got the songs on a studio album, that is often enough.
Quote from: Steve Jones on Sat, 2009-05-16, 22:26:47
Top ten bands by album ownership. Includes CD & download equivalents, but excludes vinyl and singles.
Quote from: maddox on Sun, 2009-05-17, 20:15:48
Which means that you're cheating, Tom. ;D
The question was 'most Albums'. Caught and Smoke are no albums, i'm sure you know that as well. :D
Ok, so no DVD's and singles, but live albums (and EP's as well?) included. Well, here we go:
1. 55 Marillion; counting the 6 disc box sets Early Stages and Curtain Call each as 1
2. 24 Genesis; counting the 4 and 3 disc Archive box sets as 1. Haven't given in to the temptation of the new box sets..
3. 19 Arena; including Smoke & Mirrors, cause I have the DVD + CD version ::) , not counting promo's and counting Contagion as 1, which I have in digipack, jewel case and promo..
4. 19 King Crimson; counting the 4 disc Projekcts box as 1
5. 19 Yes; including the AWBH album
6. 16 Rush
7. 13 The Gathering
8. 13 Heather Nova
9. 13 Pendragon
10. 13 Pink Floyd; counting Piper of which I also have a 3-disc promo of the 40th anniversary edition as 1
Runners up are Asia (11), Dream Theater (9), Peter Gabriel (8 ) and Radiohead (8 ). Progressing towards this list are Steve Hackett, Beatles, Saga and VDGG I'm still expanding my collections of.
Quote from: Bupie on Mon, 2009-05-18, 10:53:20
But to show that I am not a collector, when I purchased the two cds remastered versions of Marillion's albums, I gave or sold the single cd original versions.
Same here ;) Albeit with some reluctance, a) for nostalgia reasons and b) because what they did to the covers for those remasters, reducing the already small cd booklet format even more with that stupid pointless frame. Especially messes up the first 3 Fish era covers that run across both front and back page >:( Anyway, my sister is enjoying the old versions now ;)
Quote from: maddox on Mon, 2009-05-18, 20:32:22
Dune?
The Movie?
Did TOTO did the soundtrack? ???
Yes, the complete one ... but I don't have it.
Quote from: Teunis on Mon, 2009-05-18, 20:02:24
Indeed, Dune is included and two bootlegs: 'Runaway' and 'Papa Was A Sexy Dancer' ;D
What songs are on them ? I have an old bootleg tape of an Italian gig from the
Turn Back tour (I think) and they play a song called
Runaway that's very good indeed. But the sound is terrible so I haven't played this tape for almost twenty years :P
Quote from: erik on Mon, 2009-05-18, 22:30:29
Anyway, my sister is enjoying the old versions now ;)
That's as good as a gift can be :)
My totals aren't going to be all that impressive unless I can count vinyl and tapes, and in order to do that, I'd have to open the boxes and count them, which is too much work anyway. I'll just estimate that I have almost 20 each of Genesis and R.E.M., and probably nothing else is even in double digits unless you count solo and side projects. Devin Townsend will probably break 10 this year if he really puts out 4 albums, which is fairly scary considering I hadn't even heard of him a year and a half ago. Now that I've once again found some music to be seriously interested in, I'll probably have some totals moving up pretty quickly, but I seriously doubt I will ever come remotely close to Steve's amazing 53 T. Rexes.
In my original post I wasn't trying to be prescriptive about what others could and couldn't count, merely explaining what I'd done - the fact that I'd excluded vinyl (because I don't use it these days) was, I felt, significant.
As a bit of background, I started to take an interest in these mad statistics when I first signed up to LastFM. I was gobsmacked by just how much Marillion led the field, being played almost 3 times as often as my next most popular artist :o
Quote from: Steve Jones on Tue, 2009-05-19, 10:16:03
In my original post I wasn't trying to be prescriptive about what others could and couldn't count, merely explaining what I'd done - the fact that I'd excluded vinyl (because I don't use it these days) was, I felt, significant.
Fair enough. Counting vinyl wouldn't really change my top numbers very much anyway (assuming you can only count once for having both CD and LP). I'd gain one R.E.M., because I have Chronic Town by itself, while I only have it as part of Dead Letter Office on CD. I'm already counting vinyl with my Genesis estimate in the first place, since I'm still in the process of CD replacing those (and probably won't bother with the last few). What it would do though, is give me a bunch more in the approximately 4-8 range. Mostly I just would like to have those albums in a readily playable format now since it's difficult and/or expensive to get them all on CD. I think all my Genesis alumni albums are on vinyl only (and I've got a goodly bunch of those) with the exception of Peter Gabriel's 3rd and 4th solos, which I have to have on CD in case there's an air raid or something. ;D
Quote from: PH on Mon, 2009-05-18, 21:34:51
I have all studio albums of Dream Theater (except the very first one).
I guess that's the band that I've got the most albums of.
You surprise me again and again, Paxi. You don't go for heavy stuff, yet your biggest collection is that of DT. Are you in love with Jamie, or what ??? ??? ???
TOT and SC are two of the heaviest albums of any band in my collection.
Everything else you have is medium to lite (late Arena being some of the heaviest).
Quote from: Manatee on Mon, 2009-05-18, 22:27:40
... there are exceptions, of course ...
Other notable exceptions are Arena's Live And Life, Queensrÿche's The Art Of Live, and DT´s Score (probably all of their live albums).
Nicky.
Quote from: Nicky007 on Tue, 2009-05-19, 11:54:19
TOT and SC are two of the heaviest albums of any band in my collection.
I may agree for
TOT but certainly not for
SC that has only two metal songs on it !
QuoteDT´s Score (probably all of their live albums)
Considering how false James sings on some parts of
OIALT and
LSFNY, I have to disagree : you can credit the band for being honest no overdubbing those parts (if they had the choice to do that or not) but I would not describe them as great nor even good :P
Quote from: Nicky007 on Tue, 2009-05-19, 11:54:19
You surprise me again and again, Paxi. You don't go for heavy stuff, yet your biggest collection is that of DT. Are you in love with Jamie, or what ??? ??? ???
I'm not afraid of heavy stuff at all.
But I wouldn't say that DT are heavy. I don't think they are that heavy at all. Although there are a few exceptions of course.
And yes, I love James' voice quite a bit. But I wouldn't go as far as to say that I'm in love with him (or even his voice).
Quote from: Nicky007 on Tue, 2009-05-19, 11:54:19
TOT and SC are two of the heaviest albums of any band in my collection.
Not in my collection! ;D
Quote from: Nicky007 on Tue, 2009-05-19, 11:54:19
Everything else you have is medium to lite (late Arena being some of the heaviest).
Alright, but perhaps not so 'lite' in other ways.
A double album by the Flower Kings, THAT's heavy! ;)
Quote from: PH on Tue, 2009-05-19, 17:08:31
A double album by the Flower Kings, THAT's heavy! ;)
More cheesy than heavy if you ask me! ;)
Okay, bad joke. Please move on people, and Paco, forgive me... :-[ :D
Tom
Quote from: Nicky007 on Tue, 2009-05-19, 11:54:19
You surprise me again and again, Paxi. You don't go for heavy stuff, yet your biggest collection is that of DT. Are you in love with Jamie, or what ??? ??? ???
Give him some time, Nicky. As I recall, you said you moved much more toward the heavy end of things as you went on in years. I've done the same, although, with a couple notable exceptions, you're still ahead of me in that department, but then, I'm a mere lad by your standards ;)
If he already likes Dream Theater stuff now, but the time he's 40 or 50, he'll probably be listening to nothing but thrash and death metal. ;D
As to being in love with Jamie, my opinion on this is already known, and in fact, if they ever replaced him with, say, Devin Townsend, I would probably pre-order every Dream Theater album they made from that point onward. And it would have the bonus of removing the ambiguity of what DT stands for. *horns*
Quote from: Manatee on Tue, 2009-05-19, 23:29:41
As I recall, you said you moved much more toward the heavy end of things as you went on in years. I've done the same, although, with a couple notable exceptions, you're still ahead of me in that department, but then, I'm a mere lad by your standards ;)
I think you have a point there, Greenie. As I see it, there
is nowadays a tendency for rock enthusiasts to gradually go in a heavier direction, the main reason being that that's where you find the most passionate/seeking/hard-driving
musicians.If a group goes heavy, they'v basically removed the limits of their exploration. They can do a lot of fine things in the lite areas too. What they're saying to the listener is, "If you wanna be with us, ya gotta follow us all the way, regardless of what we conjure up."
That's prog for you 8)
I think that Arena and DT deliberately bank on that.
Nicky.
Well Nicky... to be honest, this way you're counting out bands like Gazpacho, and I think you're REALLY missing out!
Not heavy at all, but great!
As I said before, I don't hate heavy music, but I think it's much overrated. There's plenty of good music around, and saying that one will like the heavy music when they 'mature' is kind of insulting in some way.
Not only to me, but also towards the musicians who try to look for the borders of prog and go over it.
Sorry, just had to say it.
Quote from: PH on Wed, 2009-05-20, 12:57:55
saying that one will like the heavy music when they 'mature' is kind of insulting in some way.
Certainly sounds odd to me. I was almost exclusively heavy when I was a kid and diversified into other areas as I
matured got older.
Quote from: PH on Wed, 2009-05-20, 12:57:55
Sorry, just had to say it.
Perfectly OK, Paxi. I'm outspoken, and I like other people being so.
Of course there are lots of great artists and groups that never get heavy - just to make that clear ! E.g. I find Jeff Buckley and Simon and Garfunkel fabulous.
What I was talking about was a general tendency.
Most prog musicians, in the short or long run, include heavy metal in their expression. E.g. DT did so from start, and Arena picked up between Immortal? and Contagion. I'd of course never call Arena a heavy metal band, but they sure master the craft of metal.
Nicky.
Another point to falsify your thesis, Nicky, with which I also think your taking turns on two wheels: there are bands that become more interesting as they mature and become less heavy. Fine examples of this are Anathema and The Gathering.
Interesting, Erik :)
I must admit to being bored by what I'v heard by The Gathering. I experience them as rather monotonous. In fact that's a problem that I have with virtually all so-called goth groups.
Anathema otoh grip me deeply (in roomese: at the b*s). They're one of the most versatile groups I know of.
It would be interesting to get some input from other roomies, but I experience the general tendency that if one passionately penetrates into music, one learns to be gratified by a wide variety of expression from Jeff-Buckley-like pared-down simple beauty to strenuous complex Scar Symmetry. Again, "The more you love music, the more music you love."
Of course there are exceptions, like some people strike upon an artist or group that simply does it for them (I'v experienced this particularly with Elvis Presley and Bob Dylan fans), and they're fully pleased to remain musically within the universe created by this one artist. I guess the Marillion community has a bit of this quality too.
Fine by me. I'm happy if I can find some people with whom I can share some of my stuff - some with some, other with others, so to speak - like in the Room, and I'm fortunate to also have friends with whom I share some wonderful music. Curiously I havent found anyone who comes close to sharing the entire range of my pantheon, but that aint no problem to me - honestly - rather have everyone diggin down to their own roots :)
Nicky.
Quote from: Nicky007 on Fri, 2009-05-22, 09:45:17
Interesting, Erik :)
I must admit to being bored by what I'v heard by The Gathering. I experience them as rather monotonous. In fact that's a problem that I have with virtually all so-called goth groups.
Anathema otoh grip me deeply (in roomese: at the b*s). They're one of the most versatile groups I know of.
Which albums by The Gathering have you heard? I think they became better when they went from goth to "trip rock" as they call it themselves, especially their album Home is a favourite of mine, very layered and melancholic. Had to get used to their shift in style though, was at first apalled by their album How To Measure A Planet, but repeated listening revelead its depths and beauty that went beyond the previous two Anneke albums.
Quote from: Nicky007 on Fri, 2009-05-22, 09:45:17
It would be interesting to get some input from other roomies, but I experience the general tendency that if one passionately penetrates into music, one learns to be gratified by a wide variety of expression from Jeff-Buckley-like pared-down simple beauty to strenuous complex Scar Symmetry. Again, "The more you love music, the more music you love."
Hitting the nail on the head there, Nicky! I've certainly noticed this in my own development of musical tastes. As you mature, you remove the limits of your exploration ;)
Quote from: Nicky007 on Fri, 2009-05-22, 09:45:17
Of course there are exceptions, like some people strike upon an artist or group that simply does it for them (I'v experienced this particularly with Elvis Presley and Bob Dylan fans), and they're fully pleased to remain musically within the universe created by this one artist. I guess the Marillion community has a bit of this quality too.
I'm passionate about Marillion and they are indeed a band that create a universe that for me is very much a place I love to be, but I certainly wouldn't want to confine myself to it and miss out on all the other great stuff that's out there. But in my high school days when I discovered (Fish era) Marillion they were indeed the centre of the musical universe to me for a while.
Quote from: erik on Fri, 2009-05-22, 10:25:35
Which albums by The Gathering have you heard?
I bought if_then_else on the basis of several recoms, listened to it some three times, but altho I preach "Ten", I really became thoroughly frustrated with it :(
So I gave it away.
But OK, Erik, you'v tipped me with Rush and King Crimson, which as you can see are now in my pantheon, so I'l gladly accept your recoms of recent Gathering :)
Nicky.
Quote from: Nicky007 on Fri, 2009-05-22, 10:34:35
I bought if_then_else on the basis of several recoms, listened to it some three times, but altho I preach "Ten", I really became thoroughly frustrated with it :(
So I gave it away.
But OK, Erik, you'v tipped me with Rush and King Crimson, which as you can see are now in my pantheon, so I'l gladly accept your recoms of recent Gathering :)
Nicky.
Home would be my no 1 recom, but if you were really so turned off by if_then_else maybe it's just not your thing and I suppose Home wouldn't be to your liking either. Especially love the tracks Amity, Saturnine and Analog Park on if_then_else. You might also try the powerful first album with Anneke, Mandylion. Less layered and versatile than their later work, but definitely a classic and founding album of the genre, the track Sand And Mercury alone is worth the price of admission.
Re: The Gathering
They were actually the first group in the black metal/goth metal/symphonic metal area that came to my attention because I heard the song "Fear the Sea" (from Mandylion) several times while grazing on Pandora. I like that one very much, and I think you might too, Nicky, but, although I did hit upon a few other songs of theirs that I thought were pretty good, on the whole they didn't really do it for me. What it did do though, is lead me to several other bands that I like more.
Pink Floyd.
But they have got alot of albums after all...
and Anathema.
Great Bands!