Nightwish part ways with Tarja Turunen

[Peter]

Source: blabbermouth

NIGHTWISH mainman Tuomas Holopainen (keyboards) has issued the following "open letter" to the group's singer, Tarja Turunen:

Dear Tarja,

"It's time to choose whether the story of NIGHTWISH ends here or whether it will still continue an undetermined period of time. We've been working with this creation for 9 years and we are not ready to give up yet. NIGHTWISH is a way of life, something to live for, and we're certain we can't let it go.

"Equally certain is the fact that we cannot go on with you and Marcelo any longer. During the last year something sad happened, which I've been going over in my head every single day, morning and night. Your attitude and behavior don't go with NIGHTWISH anymore. There are characteristics I would never have believed to see in my old dear friend. People who don't talk with each other for a year do not belong in the same band.

"We are involved in an industry where the business side of things is a necessary evil and something to worry about all the time. We are also a band which has always done music from the heart, because of friendship and the music itself. The mental satisfaction should always be more important than money! Nightwish is a band, it's an emotion.

"To you, unfortunately, business, money, and things that have nothing to do with those emotions have become much more important. You feel that you have sacrificed yourself and your musical career for NIGHTWISH, rather than thinking what it has given to you. This attitude was clearly shown to me in the two things you said to me in an airplane in Toronto: 'I don't need NIGHTWISH anymore,' and 'Remember, Tuomas, that I could leave this band at any time, giving you only one day's warning in advance.'

"I can't simply write any more songs for you to sing.

"You have said yourself that you are merely a 'guest musician' in NIGHTWISH. Now that visit ends and we will continue NIGHTWISH with a new female vocalist. We're sure this is an equally big relief to you as it is for us. We have all been feeling bad long enough.

"You told us that no matter what, the next NIGHTWISH album will be your last one. However, the rest of us want to continue as long as the fire burns. So there's no sense in doing that next album with you, either.
"The four of us have been going over this situation countless times and we have realized that this is the thing we want to do in life. It's all we can do. In December 2004, in Germany, you said that you will never tour again for more than two weeks at a time. You also said that we can forget about U.S. and Australia because the fees and the sizes of venues are too small.

"In interviews I've mentioned that if Tarja leaves, that would be the end of the band. I understand that people will think this way. NIGHTWISH is, however, a scenery of my soul and I'm not ready to let go because of one person. A person who wants to focus her creativity to somewhere else, a person whose values don't match mine.

"We were never bothered by the fact that you didn't participate in writing/arranging songs, you never in 9 years came to rehearse the songs with us before going to the studio. Not the fact that while on tour you always wanted to fly, separately from us with your husband. Not the fact that you are an undisputable front image of the band. We accepted and felt OK about everything except greed, underestimating the fans, and breaking promises. It was agreed by the five of us that NIGHTWISH would be the priority in everything that we do during 2004-2005. Still so many things were more important to you. The ultimate example being the already sold-out show in Oslo, which you wanted to cancel because you needed to rehearse for your solo concerts, meet frieds and go to the movies. Those were the words Marcelo used in an e-mail explaining the cancellation. This being just one example of so many. I couldn't think of a worse way of being selfish and dismissing our fans.

"NIGHTWISH is a way of life and a job with many obligations. To each other and to the fans. With you we can't take care of those duties anymore.

"Deep within we don't know which one of you drove us to this point. Somehow Marcelo has changed you from the lovely girl you were into a diva, who doesn't think or act the way she used to. You are too sure of your irreplaceableness and status.

"It's obvious that you blame your stress and misery on us four. And you think we don't respect or listen to you. Believe us; We have always had the uppermost respect towards you as a wonderful vocalist and as a friend. And very often during the past couple of years the plans were made according to your decisions only. You were always the only one who wanted more money from the shows.

"This 'compensation and more money from everything' attitude is the fact that we are most disappointed of!

"We wish that from now on you will listen to your heart instead of Marcelo. Cultural differences combined with greed, opportunism and love is a dangerous combination. Do not wither yourself.

"This decision is not something we are especially proud of but you gave us no choice. The gap between us is too wide. And the decision is made by us four unanimously. We are beyond the point where things could be settled by talking.

"All the best for your life and career, Tuomas."

NIGHTWISH recorded the final show of their "Once" world tour — on Friday (Oct. 21) at the Hartwall Arena in Helsinki — for an upcoming CD/DVD, entitled "End of an Era". "As you can imagine, the atmosphere in the arena was wild but also quite blue," the band write on their web site. "This was the ending for a one and a half year lasting 'Once' world Tour. NIGHTWISH wishes to thank everybody for an unbelievable tour. Unfortunately, the title 'End of an Era' also holds a deeper meaning."

[Peter]

*sniff*

[Appelmoes??]

I'm sad that Tarja changed the way is described. She is a very good singer

[keyboardistmatt]

*sniff*

Awww, come on...

**Pads Peter's head**

Smile!

[PH]

I just was getting into this music.
Yeah, it's a shame that people change.
A good friend of mine has changed in a way that I can't be friends with him anymore.
This sort of things happen and it makes me feel sad.
But then again I think: "This way I can filter my friends and in the end I'll end up with the core!"

With music it is something different, because of someones musical talent. And Tarja HAS talent.
But I'm sure Nightwish could do without her.

[sotonrobin]

This reminds me of the Joe Walsh lyrics from "Lifes been good"

Life's Been Good
Joe Walsh

I have a mansion, forget the price
Ain't never been there, they tell me it's nice
I live in hotels, tear out the walls
I have accountants pay for it all

They say I'm crazy but I have a good time
I'm just looking for clues at the scene of the crime
Life's been good to me so far

My Maserati does one-eighty-five
I lost my license, now I don't drive
I have a limo, ride in the back
I lock the doors in case I'm attacked

I make hit records, my fans they can't wait
They write me letters, tell me I'm great
So I got me an office, gold records on the wall
Just leave a message, maybe I'll call

Lucky I'm sane after all I've been through
(Everybody say "I'm cool"......"He's cool")
I can't complain but sometimes I still do
Life's been good to me so far

I go to parties, sometimes until four
It's hard to leave when you can't find the door
It's tough to handle this fortune and fame
Everybody's so different, I haven't changed

They say I'm lazy but it takes all my time
(Everybody say "Oh, yeah"..... "Oh, yeah")
I keep on goin' guess I'll never know why
Life's been good to me so far

Yeah, yeah, yeah

[keyboardistmatt]

Tarja has written a response to the letter, and put it on her website.
http://www.tarjaturunen.com/

[PH]

Yeah, I understand both sides.
But one of the sides is lying obviously.

[keyboardistmatt]

Yeah, I understand both sides.
But one of the sides is lying obviously.

So, who do you believe?

[PH]

I'm not the one who can say that, because I only just got into the band, I don't know them.

But I think I believe the boys. It's four against one, and if it is what they say, then Tarja was acting very stupid...


ethical question.

[keyboardistmatt]

I don't think anybody is lying.  There is now a letter from both sides, and it all seems pretty straightfoward to me...

[Appelmoes??]

I don't think anybody is lying.  There is now a letter from both sides, and it all seems pretty straightfoward to me...

Letter from the fans:

"This sucks man! Act like adults and don't write letters you put on internet for everybody to read."

[PH]

Letter from the fans:

"This sucks man! Act like adults and don't write letters you put on internet for everybody to read."

Yeah, that's something I don't understand either. It's a personal problem, and the whole letter from the boys was full of things that we shouldn't know about.
"...This attitude was clearly shown to me in the two things you said to me in an airplane in Toronto..."
MAN! They really act like little childs. "You said this!" "Oh, but you said that!"

C'mon please!

Some things must be kept personal.

[keyboardistmatt]

Temper, temper!