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Title: Threshold - Dead Reckoning
Post by: The Butterfly Man on Sun, 2007-02-11, 19:26:35
The new Threshold album, called 'Dead Reckoning' will be released 23.03.2007! Rumor has it that it will be Threshold's heaviest album to date. They hired Swedish multi-instrumentalist/producer Dan Swanö who laid down some 'brutal' backing vocals, so I'm very curious!

Track List

1.    Slipstream (4.53)
2.    This Is Your Life (3.41)
3.    Elusive (6.10)
4.    Hollow (4.00)
5.    Pilot In The Sky Of Dreams (9.44)
6.    Fighting For Breath (8.16)
7.    Disappear (4.17)
8.    Safe To Fly (5.06)
9.   One Degree Down   (8.33)

There will also be a limited edition with a bonustrack: Supermassive Black Hole which is a Muse cover.

Band member Richard West commented: "It's a good Muse song and their recording is very cool, but we've made our version heavier and more powerful than the original. It works so well as a Threshold track that it sounds like Muse covered our song!"

Cheers, Tom
Title: Re: Threshold - Dead Reckoning
Post by: Peter on Sun, 2007-02-11, 20:45:34
Great News... :D
Title: Re: Threshold - Dead Reckoning
Post by: maddox on Sun, 2007-02-11, 21:11:14
Heard the news. Looks good to me.  8)
Title: Re: Threshold - Dead Reckoning
Post by: The Butterfly Man on Mon, 2007-02-12, 23:37:37
On www.thresh.net you can stream a radio version of the first track of the album, Slipstream. It sounds great so go check it out!!!

Cheers, Tom
Title: Re: Threshold - Dead Reckoning
Post by: Peter on Tue, 2007-02-13, 09:58:09
hmmm, growling?   :(
Title: Re: Threshold - Dead Reckoning
Post by: The Butterfly Man on Tue, 2007-02-13, 11:27:43
Don't be put off by the growls, I read somewhere that there will only be some growling on the 1st and 3rd track...And hey, they're only backing vocals, the lead vocals sounds nice and clean, don't they? ;)

Tom
Title: Re: Threshold - Dead Reckoning
Post by: Appelmoes?? on Tue, 2007-02-13, 12:23:59
I like it :) *horns*
Title: Re: Threshold - Dead Reckoning
Post by: Cyborg-Frask on Thu, 2007-02-15, 19:44:12
O yeah! really good news

whahaha everytime I hear that growling, I have to laugh :D ....It's a really funny one

I can see it already: "Threshold goes screamo" ;D  :P

Anyway.. this sounds really promising, I really love threshold and this one is really on my list.
Title: Re: Threshold - Dead Reckoning
Post by: Appelmoes?? on Fri, 2007-02-16, 12:53:56
Quote"Dead Reckoning could very well take the band to a new level of stardom!"
Scream (NO)
Looks like they didn't like the screams either :P
Title: Re: Threshold - Dead Reckoning
Post by: CygnusX1 on Tue, 2007-02-20, 13:44:50
Really looking forward to this one, and if 'Slipstream' is anything to go by it should be brilliant.  Dammit, so many potentially great releases to come this year!
Title: Re: Threshold - Dead Reckoning
Post by: Herben on Sun, 2007-03-18, 21:58:09
So next friday will be the release! I'll be looking forward to it
Title: Re: Threshold - Dead Reckoning
Post by: Pegas on Mon, 2007-03-19, 20:34:38
There is already download single Pilot In The Sky Of Dreams available here (http://www.nuclearblast-musicshop.de/album_info.php?album_id=99991) for only 2.99 Euro. Radio version you can hear on www.thresh.net (video is here (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2qw1M-e0CeQ)) is great but for progmetal fans I recomend full version  (9:44). It's fantastic with many changes, solos... I love both version.
As I know there is only some growling on two songs Slipstream and Elusive. I heard both and even I don't like growling I like it in this form and here it sound interesting.  I'm really looking forward to full album.
Title: Re: Threshold - Dead Reckoning
Post by: Appelmoes?? on Mon, 2007-03-19, 21:07:29
Quote from: Herben on Sun, 2007-03-18, 21:58:09
So next friday will be the release! I'll be looking forward to it
Me 2!
Title: Re: Threshold - Dead Reckoning
Post by: Lake of despond on Wed, 2007-03-21, 11:35:28
I can't wait for Dead Reckoning either, till now I heard just good reviews! So far I liked both Pilot and Slipstream, even though they're just shorter versions :)
Who is interested to see new video clip (which is more than professional), visit Youtube, you won't regret!!
Threshold rocks... *horns*
Title: Re: Threshold - Dead Reckoning
Post by: The Butterfly Man on Fri, 2007-03-23, 15:58:11
I just bought the album and listened to it once. It's great! The Muse-cover is also very good, although, at this point, I still like the original better. But that may change when I heard it more often... ;D

Anyway, GREAT album!!! *horns* *horns* *horns*

Cheers, Tom
Title: Re: Threshold - Dead Reckoning
Post by: Lake of despond on Fri, 2007-03-23, 16:53:45
 :)

It's more than great to read this, I can't wait to hear it!!!
Title: Re: Threshold - Dead Reckoning
Post by: Appelmoes?? on Fri, 2007-03-23, 17:11:34
ME WANTS IT!! *horns*
Title: Re: Threshold - Dead Reckoning
Post by: Lake of despond on Fri, 2007-03-23, 17:22:31
The precious is ourrrrs... :D ;D
Title: Re: Threshold - Dead Reckoning
Post by: The Butterfly Man on Sat, 2007-03-24, 19:01:07
I think this is already, after only a few spins in my cd-player, one of my favourite releases of 2007 so far (next to Pain Of Salvation's Scarsick)! Really an impressing album!

Tom

p.s: Just listen to the end section of 'One Degree Down'. what a BRILLIANT guitarsolo!!!
*horns*

Title: Re: Threshold - Dead Reckoning
Post by: maddox on Sun, 2007-04-01, 12:16:42
Have i said recently that it's a great album?

Except the Muse cover. Personally i don't like that one too much.  :-\ Pilot is one of the best songs along with One Degree Below.  *horns*
Title: Re: Threshold - Dead Reckoning
Post by: Silhouette on Fri, 2007-04-06, 13:57:16
Very good album!
It's not my favourite by Threshold (I think!), but still very good!

Favourite tracks are Pilot in the sky of dreams, Fighting for breath and Safe to fly.

Silhouette
Title: Re: Threshold - Dead Reckoning
Post by: Pegas on Mon, 2007-04-09, 22:50:35
I'm listening Dead Reckoning few times per day since Tuesday and can't stop it. It's another masterpiece in Threshold discography, great music from start to end including Muse cover. For me Dead Reckoning is album of the year so far.
Title: Re: Threshold - Dead Reckoning
Post by: Lake of despond on Tue, 2007-04-17, 17:45:54
After much listening I must conclude it's another GREAT album from Threshold, the best release of this year definitely! Every song is a masterpiece, especially Muse cover is done trillion times better than the original...
Threshold is the leading prog metal band in my opinion and they deserve worldwide recognition, after so many years on the scene they're still in some inexplicable shadow...
Title: Re: Threshold - Dead Reckoning
Post by: Silhouette on Thu, 2007-04-19, 23:14:57
I actually don't agree about the Muse cover.

In Threshold's version, they've removed a few vocal harmonies, and I think those harmonies makes the original song, so Threshold's version is definitely missing something there..

Silhouette
Title: Re: Threshold - Dead Reckoning
Post by: Lake of despond on Mon, 2007-04-23, 13:40:51
Aha, Threshold's version is definitely missing that completely boring side which Muse one has :D

Luckily it's much more powerful, in fact I think those harmonies can be even better recognized in Threshold's interpretation for the sound is clearer and sharper, therefore more appropriate to transmit some energy...

If somebody's interested there is great interview made with Richard West on Metal Cast (http://www.metal-cast.com/), members of the forum came up with the questions so it's quite original ;)
Title: Re: Threshold - Dead Reckoning
Post by: Pegas on Tue, 2007-05-08, 11:56:05
Supermassive Black Hole is only one song I know from Muse, because I wanted to compare both versions. I prefer Threshold, because there are better vocals, more energy and overall it sounds better for me. Original sounds more electronic, but like some sort of uncomplete demo (now I'm talking about sound only, it's still interesting song).
Title: Re: Threshold - Dead Reckoning
Post by: PH on Tue, 2007-05-08, 12:25:03
Oh but you should really listen to Muse! :o

Start with the album "Absolution" which is the best in my opinion.
It's got a lot of piano, and amazing guitar and drum. There's also the dramatic vocals, that's the trademark of Muse.

Matt Bellamy (voice, guitar, piano's, keyboards) is VERY talented!
Title: Re: Threshold - Dead Reckoning
Post by: Lake of despond on Tue, 2007-05-08, 17:34:41
From what I heard Muse really wasn't impressive enough to push me listening some more...

As related to Threshold another excellent interview was made with Karl Groom at Classic Rock Newswire (http://classicrocknewswire.blogspot.com/), anyone interested in this genuine guy or new album should read it :)
Title: Re: Threshold - Dead Reckoning
Post by: Appelmoes?? on Tue, 2007-05-08, 20:08:35
I know some Muse songs, and their not the kind of music I like *shrug* I have a very fixed taste in music.
Title: Re: Threshold - Dead Reckoning
Post by: maddox on Tue, 2007-05-08, 20:31:53
Actually, before i ever heard the Muse-cover by Threshold i never ever heard a track of Muse. What i've heard until now isn't satisfying me a bit.
Don't like it. Sorry, just a taste.  :-\  ;)

But...

Supermassive Black Hole is a very nice song indeed.  *horns*
Title: Re: Threshold - Dead Reckoning
Post by: PH on Tue, 2007-05-08, 20:50:00
Quote from: maddox on Tue, 2007-05-08, 20:31:53
Actually, before i ever heard the Muse-cover by Threshold i never ever heard a track of Muse. What i've heard until now isn't satisfying me a bit.
Don't like it. Sorry, just a taste.  :-\  ;)

But...

Supermassive Black Hole is a very nice song indeed.  *horns*

That's soooo funny, 'cause I like Muse a lot, but don't really like Supermassive Black Hole...
To me songs like "Showbizz", "Muscle Museum", "New Born", "Stockholm Syndrome", "Starlight" (I think I mentioned at least one song of each album now) are much better!
Title: Re: Threshold - Dead Reckoning
Post by: Lake of despond on Thu, 2007-05-17, 11:16:40

And another great interview on Usaprog Music with Karl Groom, it can be even downloaded in Mp3 format, lasts 30 minutes! ;D

http://usaprogmusic.com/joomla/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=35&Itemid=45
Title: Re: Threshold - Dead Reckoning
Post by: Nicky007 on Fri, 2007-06-01, 12:19:54
Quote from: Peter on Tue, 2007-02-13, 09:58:09
hmmm, growling?   :(

It's hardly growl. It's more like hearing my 15-year old cat "growl".

If you wanna hear real growl, then listen to Opeth's Ghost Reveries. The growl there is not my taste, and I don't understand why Mikael does so much of it, considering that he has great clean vocals; but there's so much other fantastic stuff going on on GR(owl) that I enjoy very much listening to it.

Nicky.
Title: Re: Threshold - Dead Reckoning
Post by: Appelmoes?? on Fri, 2007-06-01, 16:47:01
Mikael's growling (grunting) is one of the few I actually like. I erally dislike Withing Tempation and After Forevers growls.
Title: Re: Threshold - Dead Reckoning
Post by: Pegas on Sun, 2007-06-17, 19:44:00
European "Live Reckoning Tour" starting 31.8.2007 with Machine Men, Communic and Serenity as support bands. More at www.thresh.net
Title: Re: Threshold - Dead Reckoning
Post by: joost on Wed, 2007-07-18, 13:28:06
I picked this CD up at a local store, im stunned..
Title: Re: Threshold - Dead Reckoning
Post by: Proglady on Sat, 2007-07-21, 20:50:36
 :o Threshold singer pulls out of upcoming festival shows  :o

16 July 2007

Threshold's singer Mac has astonished his fellow band members by deciding not to perform at this weekend's Metal Camp and Earthshaker festivals in Slovenia and Germany.

Fortunately the band's previous singer Damian Wilson has come to the rescue and will perform at the festivals with the band for the first time since 1997.

Damian Wilson is currently lead singer for the band Headspace who recently supported Ozzy Osbourne for UK shows including Wembley Arena.


http://www.thresh.net/ (http://www.thresh.net/)

Read the News here
Title: Re: Threshold - Dead Reckoning
Post by: maddox on Sat, 2007-07-21, 21:38:04
That's odd.  :-\

He must have a good reason to do that.
Title: Re: Threshold - Dead Reckoning
Post by: maddox on Sat, 2007-07-21, 21:45:19
Quote from: maddox on Sat, 2007-07-21, 21:38:04
That's odd.  :-\

He must have a good reason to do that.

To quote myself, i found some answer which to the riddle.

Here it goes:

Quote from: Richard West on the Threshold-forum17th July 2007 by keyboardist Richard West on the Threshold forum

Mac was due to arrive in England on Saturday for band rehearsals, but on Saturday morning he sent us a short email saying he has to get on with his life and he's not coming. It was totally unexpected and we're all shocked by the news. Mac won't answer our phone calls so we can't get any more information from him. With two festivals to perform next weekend our only option was to cancel the shows or find a replacement singer. Fortunately our old singer Damian Wilson was able to step in and help out, he's now very busy learning the new material in time for Friday's show in Slovenia. We don't know what the long-term solution is, our focus right now is on the two festivals, we'll see how they go and take it from there.

And now the one we've been waiting for:

Quote from: Mac on the Threshold-forum21st July 2007 by ex singer Mac on the Threshold forum

Sorry it took so long to give this stament. But, I`m also sorry it took me so long to realise I had to get on with the rest of my life and eventually make a decent living. I know the timing was bad and I`m very grateful to Damian for standing in for me. Unfortunately it`s absolutely impossible to live on fresh air alone. Next time you listen to a Threshold album picture my girlfriend having to work overtime to make it possible for me to go on tour, not to mention all the jobs I chose to give up to continue with Threshold. Once again, the timing was bad.... I was up all Friday night (13.07.2007) considering this and decided it was time to support my family 100%. For all the Fans out there take what you have and enjoy it (I know I was devasted when Led Zeppelin came to an end). Thanks for all your support, all the best for Threshold and Threshold Fans for the future, Cheers Mac

I can understand his decision but indeed the timing couldn't be more worse.  :-\

Sad.

But good that Damian fills in.  ;)

Title: Re: Threshold - Dead Reckoning
Post by: PH on Sat, 2007-07-21, 22:16:13
Shit man... first Martin Orford, now Mac...

There's a lot of people going out of bands lately...
Damian should get back with the band to do at least one new studio album again. That would be fun.
And then Threshold should go seek another singer, but I was very much getting used to Mac...

I wonder how Damian will pull off those Mac songs.
Title: Re: Threshold - Dead Reckoning
Post by: Appelmoes?? on Sun, 2007-07-22, 12:53:07
Very sad news :( I think Damian is a better singer then Mac, but for Threshold's sounds Mac was better imo. I hope they can find a good replacement.
Title: Re: Threshold - Dead Reckoning
Post by: Justin on Sun, 2007-07-22, 22:37:28
Damn this sucks  :'(

I was already looking forward to see them in de Boerderij :(
Title: Re: Threshold - Dead Reckoning
Post by: Appelmoes?? on Sun, 2007-07-22, 22:40:59
Let's hope this will go like with Glynn: Damian does the tour, and after that he also appears on the new album ;D
Title: Re: Threshold - Dead Reckoning
Post by: Lake of despond on Mon, 2007-07-23, 09:39:21
Agree with Appelmoes??, after this shock the only lucky solution would be that Damian saves us.....
Title: Re: Threshold - Dead Reckoning
Post by: JJ II on Mon, 2007-07-23, 11:02:45
Sorry to hear this. But since I'm a big Damian fan, I really hope he will do the Dutch gig as well!
Title: Re: Threshold - Dead Reckoning
Post by: The Butterfly Man on Mon, 2007-07-23, 12:21:43
What a shame! I think I'll pass on the gig in 'De Boerderij' simply because I don't really like Damian's voice so much whilst I LOVE Mac's... :'(

Tom
Title: Re: Threshold - Dead Reckoning
Post by: JJ II on Mon, 2007-07-23, 12:38:17
QuoteI think I'll pass on the gig in 'De Boerderij' simply because I don't really like Damian's voice

My reaction was the opposite. Since Dead Reckoning didn't bring much 'news' to me, I was in doubt of going.
Considering Damian one of the best singers around, this will be a big YES in my agenda!

Title: Re: Threshold - Dead Reckoning
Post by: PH on Mon, 2007-07-23, 13:00:54
It is at least interesting to hear Damian sing the new Threshold songs.
If he won't do a studioalbum with Threshold he could always do one of those special albums. An album with Mac songs performed by Damian. Just like Mac did on Replica with a song originally by Damian.

Hehehehe. ;D
Title: Re: Threshold - Dead Reckoning
Post by: Nicky007 on Mon, 2007-07-23, 16:15:29
I'm also very sad to hear this, because I consider Mac a fabulous singer, one of the absolute best rock singers, and he worked very well in Threshold. Another of the great things about Mac is that he's so modest about his talent, not at all a primadon. He was so much fun on stage. However, I think the most important thing is that Mac gets his life together again. He seems to have been rather run down lately. I know that Threshold have had a hard time through the years, mainly because they never really broke through, although fortunately lately they've gained a lot more positive interest; and the hard life has been a major reason for several of their excellent members leaving them, not so much personal and musical differences.

It seems that in this case too the relationship between Mac and the other guys remains friendly and respectful.

I can only wish both Mac and Threshold the best. Both have given us so much wonderful music.

Nicky.
Title: Re: Threshold - Dead Reckoning
Post by: Appelmoes?? on Mon, 2007-07-23, 16:39:01
Amen :)
Title: Re: Threshold - Dead Reckoning
Post by: Nicky007 on Mon, 2007-07-23, 17:00:47
Yes, Appelmoes, that's my fave perfume for men, i.e. for myself (A-men, herewith recommended).

Nicky.
Title: Re: Threshold - Dead Reckoning
Post by: PH on Mon, 2007-07-23, 17:36:47
Ah men!

;)
Title: Re: Threshold - Dead Reckoning
Post by: Proglady on Mon, 2007-07-23, 23:32:48
Quote from: Appelmoes?? on Sun, 2007-07-22, 22:40:59
Let's hope this will go like with Glynn: Damian does the tour, and after that he also appears on the new album ;D

So far it's not sure that Damian is going to do the whole tour, read for yourself http:www.thresh.net (//http://http:www.thresh.net)
Title: Re: Threshold - Dead Reckoning
Post by: Proglady on Fri, 2007-07-27, 16:08:23
Great News, at least for me,  ;D Damian Wilson is going to perform the Rest of Threshold Iour!  *horns*
Title: Re: Threshold - Dead Reckoning
Post by: Appelmoes?? on Fri, 2007-07-27, 16:30:57
The rest too? Awesome news 8)
Title: Re: Threshold - Dead Reckoning
Post by: JJ II on Thu, 2007-08-30, 11:09:23
So who's going to anyone of the forthcoming gigs. I'm planning to see the one on sunday the 2nd, but I'm a bit put off by no less than 3 (!!) support acts. I'm afraid I will have to leave before the end of Threshold in order to get some sleep before going to work.
Title: Re: Threshold - Dead Reckoning
Post by: johninblack on Thu, 2007-08-30, 17:57:28
Quote from: JJ II on Thu, 2007-08-30, 11:09:23
So who's going to anyone of the forthcoming gigs.

September 15th, Summersend Festival. Really looking forward to it, it will be my first Threshold gig.
Title: Re: Threshold - Dead Reckoning
Post by: JJ II on Mon, 2007-09-03, 12:46:56
It will be great. I saw them last night and they played a 1,5 hour set (way too short). It was great, great, great to see Damian back. He did soooo well on most of the tracks.
Some of the newer material  sounded as if it was written for him! And the return of a legendary oldie was truly awesome!

Don't miss 'em.
Title: Re: Threshold - Dead Reckoning
Post by: PH on Mon, 2007-09-03, 12:53:57
Quote from: JJ II on Mon, 2007-09-03, 12:46:56Some of the newer material  sounded as if it was written for him! And the return of a legendary oldie was truly awesome!

Don't miss 'em.

I understand that Damian is a nice singer but to say that you don't miss Mac is a bit unfair to him, don't you think?


;)


-Paco
Title: Re: Threshold - Dead Reckoning
Post by: bluepony on Mon, 2007-09-03, 13:00:18
Paco,

I think what JJ II meant when he said "Don't miss 'em" was "Go and see them"...
Title: Re: Threshold - Dead Reckoning
Post by: PH on Mon, 2007-09-03, 13:36:34
Quote from: bluepony on Mon, 2007-09-03, 13:00:18Paco,

I think what JJ II meant when he said "Don't miss 'em" was "Go and see them"...

No kidding?


;)

-Paco
Title: Re: Threshold - Dead Reckoning
Post by: JJ II on Mon, 2007-09-03, 14:16:48
Yeah, Mac's departure is a sad thing, but Damian is VERY capable of filling his own old boots,...

[btw, the 'oldie' meant above is a song, not the singer]  ;D
Title: Re: Threshold - Dead Reckoning
Post by: bluepony on Mon, 2007-09-03, 15:37:21
Quote from: PH on Mon, 2007-09-03, 13:36:34
No kidding?

Sorry, didn't see the  ;) smiley there!  :-[
Title: Re: Threshold - Dead Reckoning
Post by: Justin on Mon, 2007-09-03, 21:26:08
I went to the Zoetermeer gig, and Damian was awesome. I had a chat with him as well, he has no intention to leave, but nothing is sure about his position.
Title: Re: Threshold - Dead Reckoning
Post by: Lake of despond on Tue, 2007-09-04, 17:43:33

Photos from the recent gigs you can find at:
http://www.ultimatemetal.com/forum/threshold/330452-live-reckoning-tour-part-i-post-your-pictures-videos-reviews-here.html

Damian and guys look really great, can't wait to see them live on 9th! ;)
Title: Re: Threshold - Dead Reckoning
Post by: Lake of despond on Wed, 2007-09-12, 11:26:00

Budapest gig was fantastic, I really enjoyed watching it and afterwards meeting them ;D All of them are in excellent form and really made it worth while coming...Don't miss this lineup, it's completely new flavour of the band!
Title: Re: Threshold - Dead Reckoning
Post by: johninblack on Thu, 2007-09-13, 10:45:26
Quote from: Lake of despond on Wed, 2007-09-12, 11:26:00
Budapest gig was fantastic, I really enjoyed watching it and afterwards meeting them ;D All of them are in excellent form and really made it worth while coming...Don't miss this lineup, it's completely new flavour of the band!


So glad you enjoyed the gig, I'll be seeing them on Sunday and i'm really looking forward to it!
Title: Re: Threshold - Dead Reckoning
Post by: Bupie on Fri, 2011-08-05, 09:45:13
A very sad news  :(

http://www.roadrunnerrecords.com/blabbermouth.Net/news.aspx?mode=Article&newsitemID=161551

He was one of my fave singers  *horns*
Title: Re: Threshold - Dead Reckoning
Post by: PH on Mon, 2011-08-08, 21:44:42
Quote from: Bupie on Fri, 2011-08-05, 09:45:13
A very sad news  :(

http://www.roadrunnerrecords.com/blabbermouth.Net/news.aspx?mode=Article&newsitemID=161551

He was one of my fave singers  *horns*

Man, that is such terrible news... :'( :'( :'(
I have no words... Mac-Threshold was so undoubtedly cool! In my opinion his voice suited Threshold much more. (Damian's voice is absolutely great too! But not for Threshold for some inexplicable reason...)

(http://userserve-ak.last.fm/serve/252/27788263.jpg)
Andrew "Mac" McDermott
(26/01/1966 - 03/08/2011)
Title: Re: Threshold - Dead Reckoning
Post by: Nicky007 on Wed, 2011-08-10, 17:00:07
Quote from: Bupie on Fri, 2011-08-05, 09:45:13
Very sad news  :(

... and very unexpected. He was a great singer for Threshold, and he seemed genuine and likable  :'(

Thanx for all the wonderful music you gave us, Mac  :)

Nicky.
Title: Re: Threshold - Dead Reckoning
Post by: Teunis on Fri, 2011-12-16, 19:44:47
New album is on its way: http://www.thresh.net/ (http://www.thresh.net/)

Looking forward to it and will probably attend the gig in Zwolle, appr. 15 kilometres away from where I live 8).