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Started by Iggy, Sun, 2008-04-20, 14:02:54
Quote from: Iggy on Fri, 2008-07-11, 08:52:57No I am not a big fan of Helloween but having listened to Avantasia one of my mates suggested Keeper of the seven keys. So I gave it a bash and quite enjoy it.
Quote from: maddox on Fri, 2008-07-11, 18:27:44Which one did you listen too? Prt I, Prt II or Prt III? Personally i think that the latter has very nice songs, like Occasional Avenue but to be honest: A Keeper Of The Seven Keys album without Michael Kistke is no KOTSK album in my book.
Quote from: Iggy on Fri, 2008-07-11, 22:28:48I like pts 1 and 2 don't have any of their other stuff
Quote from: maddox on Fri, 2008-07-11, 22:39:42Then you probably have the best work anyway.
Quote from: Deenfan on Sat, 2008-07-12, 00:16:34Not necessarily. That will have to be a taste issue. Helloween is starting to get recognized for continuing to deliver the goods through decades, and not lose momentum the way so many old bands seem to do. I, for one, think they have one of the longest streaks of great albums any band has ever mustered. Granted, the Keeper albums were special, no doubt about it. But I can't help thinking that some of the glory is just that, a glory. Not very tangible and who knows how real, but there is an aura/shine... maybe it's magic, and then it's just fantastic, of course. But it is part illusion?Newer albums may not get that mood-boost to their aura, partly because you're not 16 any more, and it takes a lot more to impress you. Looking back, it seems all albums were a bit more magic back then, when one felt so strongly about everything.Helloween started losing the plot after the Keeper albums. I don't mind a lot, but the general feeling is that Pink bubbles... was a plunge, and Chameleon was horrible. But after that, we have... let me see... Master of the rings, The time of the oath, Better than raw, The dark ride, Rabbit don't come easy, Keeper...The legacy, and Gambling with the devil. All are consistently great, approaching or even transcending brilliant. That's seven in a row, with rock solid song writing on display, even if some individual songs might divide the fans into different camps. I don't know if I have any other band in my collection I can say that about.I once played the original Keeper albums to a Stratovarius fan. (Strato being one of the most blatant copyists of the Keeper albums). He didn't like them at all, and thought they sounded weak and dated. Go figure.
Quote from: Deenfan on Sat, 2008-07-12, 12:44:37Yes, it is. Essentially the most valuable thing you can harvest from attending a forum. I've learned so many times to check out albums I'd never given a chance because of the local general conception of it. Here and there, people would say "Hey, it's vastly underrated - to me it's the best they did" and so on. Every so often, I realize I can see why the fans the band in question did have didn't like it, but to me, coming in from a different angle, it might just as well be superior to what ever else they've done.I will have to come back with an album by album thingy on the Helloween thread, won't I?
Quote from: Iggy on Sat, 2008-07-05, 00:56:47Cool I was at the Liverpool Empire. He [Trevor Rabin] actually blew Steve Hillage away as well I think.
Quote from: Steve Jones on Sat, 2008-07-05, 09:25:27Well, I wouldn't go quite that far! (Comforts his knitted Hillage Hat, currently quivering in distress)
Quote from: Nicky007 on Wed, 2008-08-13, 22:10:09I don't know Steve Hillage at all. What's he like ? Is he worth a spin nowadays ?
Quote from: Steve Jones on Fri, 2008-08-15, 07:45:45... you might like to start with 'Motivation Radio' as a representative mid-period release ...
Quote from: Steve Jones on Fri, 2008-08-15, 07:45:45But when you're not in a grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr mood ...
Quote from: Steve Jones on Fri, 2008-08-15, 07:45:45You always ask the question of artists that are difficult to define! I think you do it on purpose.
Quote from: Nicky007 on Fri, 2008-08-15, 16:49:41Stevie, wouldnt Light In The Sky get me a more up-to-date Hillage ?
Quote from: Steve Jones on Fri, 2008-08-15, 19:53:46I hadn't thought of that, to be honest, as Best Ofs don't generally appear on my radar. Yes, it may well be a good intro, although I wouldn't use the phrase 'up-to-date' as it includes older stuff as well. I don't think any of the albums are a bad starting point, I just picked one in the middle because I'm lazy.
Quote from: Iggy on Fri, 2008-08-15, 22:21:35Hmmmm could have sworn this was my thread.
Quote from: funkster on Sun, 2008-08-17, 09:32:32Iggy , you still going to see it Bites at the Pacific in Birkenhead ?I may pop along myself
Quote from: Iggy on Sun, 2008-08-17, 22:34:00Not sure if I will still be around bit of a cock up on the holiday front. If I am then I will be there.
Quote from: funkster on Mon, 2008-08-18, 07:04:43Fingers crossed then fella
Quote from: Iggy on Sat, 2008-12-06, 14:24:32Just added Circus Maximus.Ta for the tip Nicky I really like them.
Quote from: Iggy on Fri, 2008-07-04, 23:46:15... the sum of the whole is greater than the sum of the parts ...
Quote from: Nicky007 on Sat, 2008-12-06, 20:21:24Welcome, Iggy You should get the studio albums of Seventh Wonder too. SW are similar to CM, and just as great. SW have released three studio albums now, all excellent - aint that right, Mad ?
Quote from: Nicky007 on Sat, 2008-12-06, 20:21:24Welcome, Iggy You should get the studio albums of Seventh Wonder too. SW are similar to CM, and just as great. SW have released three studio albums now, all excellent - aint that right, Mad ?And particularly proggies our age should have the albums of Nevermore; they'v given a new meaning to "prog metal".I guess that just like we have "new maths", we also have "new philosophy" Maybe you'd also like to remove the first "h" in Whishbone Ash, and rectify AC/DC, Iggy Nicky
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