Please use this subject to give album title suggestions only - the best one may/or may not get used at Clive's discretion!!!
OK, to kick off...........................
CHOSEN - THE BEST OF ARENA
or
SETTING THE STAGE
Quote from: mdread666 on Wed, 2005-02-23, 15:22:08
OK, to kick off...........................
CHOSEN - THE BEST OF ARENA
Good one. Like it ;D
"Setting The Stage" would be good for a live album.
The Young Person's Guide to Arena? ;)
Decadent - the first 10 years of Arena
Quote from: Constable Hogweed on Wed, 2005-02-23, 18:18:06
Decadent - the first 10 years of Arena
That's real Threshold like ;)
Oh lord, I'm sticking neck out here for the sake of a cheap laugh, but what the hell - we're all friends here after all (are n't we?):
If we take the cynical view that 'Best Of....' albums are a means of cashing in (and I'm not saying that really is the case), how about 'Immoral' :)
Sorry ... could not resist it. I'll come up with a serious suggestion as soon as the drugs kick in ;D
Then there is always the obscure tital possibility - "12:50"
which time wise is the same as ten to one;
and we have Ten years condensed into One album
(just trying to think outside the box ..... well trying to think at any rate)
Quote from: Simtere on Wed, 2005-02-23, 22:40:32
Then there is always the obscure tital possibility - "12:50"
No, that would be interpreted as a rip-off of Pain Of Salvation's 12:5.
Quote from: Appelmoes?? on Wed, 2005-02-23, 19:09:52
That's real Threshold like ;)
Damn i thought that sounded familiar. :-[
Oh well back to the drawing board
Uncaged - The best of Arena.
That actually sounds really good. (http://forum.hadrian.net/images/okay.gif)
Inside the Arena - the best of Arena
But I like Hogweed's one!
Vortex - The Best of Arena
Why Vortex?
An old 'Nam expression for somebody who was on the edge of death was "He's circling the plughole"...
MMmmmmm......Vortex....?
I can hear Clive's reaction already....!
Oh, offcourse! You're pulled under in a Vortex of overwhelming good music.
Title 'Arena: Ten' ... 1 song from each of the following album:
01 - Songs from the Lion Cage,
02 - Pride,
03 - The Cry,
04 - Welcome to the Stage,
05 - The Visitor,
06 - Immortal ?
07 - Breakfast in Biarritz,
08 - Contagion,
09 - Live and Life,
10 - Pepper's Ghost
(so 10 songs from Ten albums ;))
... and a special box package containing the re-edition of the 4 fan clubs CD ! ;D
Quote from: HeJePi on Sat, 2005-02-26, 16:45:08
... and a special box package containing the re-edition of the 4 fan clubs CD ! ;D
Yeay!!!
Quote from: HeJePi on Sat, 2005-02-26, 16:45:08
... and a special box package containing the re-edition of the 4 fan clubs CD ! ;D
And
another vote for this ...!
How about "Cages and Stages", a double-album package?
"Cages" would contain a selection of tracks from the studio albums, as previously suggested, and "Stages" would feature some outstanding live performances.
I also think the idea would translate well onto DVD format, since the live part would benefit from being visual as well. I always prefer live gigs to be on DVD, because I like to see the band in action, getting sweaty and interacting with the fans.
We must find something that will be of interest for people who do not know Arena at the first place. Honestly I do not think that a 'Best of Studio' CD + 'Best of Live' DVD is a good solution ... when you try out a new band, you do not want to 'invest' too much money, correct ?
Quote from: HeJePi on Sat, 2005-02-26, 16:45:08
... and a special box package containing the re-edition of the 4 fan clubs CD ! ;D
\o/ me tooo!
Quote from: HeJePi on Sun, 2005-02-27, 03:38:19
We must find something that will be of interest for people who do not know Arena at the first place. Honestly I do not think that a 'Best of Studio' CD + 'Best of Live' DVD is a good solution ... when you try out a new band, you do not want to 'invest' too much money, correct ?
That's why I think an initial single disc with straight album copies should be released at a 'cheap' price to attract people to buy, with an accompanying disc sold through the Cage online fan club store with unreleased live versions, re-done vocal versions and a cover version or two, to make it an attractive package for us fans who already have the studio versions. The single disc version could be sold in a 2CD case with 'cardboard cut-out' disc 2 insert advertising the online fan club. That way, not only do you attarct people to invest a few quid to try out a 'new' band but if they like what they hear (and let's face, it they will!!) then you'll also encourage them to check out the free fan club web site, part with a bit more money to complete the package, and get more people directly involved with Arena, like us lot here!
Not only that, it will make for a nice 2CD package that all of us will want!
(What are your thoughts Clive?)
Quote from: mdread666 on Mon, 2005-02-28, 17:06:53
That's why I think an initial single disc with straight album copies should be released at a 'cheap' price to attract people to buy, with an accompanying disc sold through the Cage online fan club store with unreleased live versions, re-done vocal versions and a cover version or two, to make it an attractive package for us fans who already have the studio versions.
A 'cheap' best of CD is OK, But if you want cheap stuff you need to manufacture it in China or maybe Singapore so the cost of production will be as cheap as possible !
I never liked the 'fan club CD approach', especially in this case ... music, to my understanding, must be made available to a maximum of people ... at a reasonable price and not 'force' people to purchase from a unique source ! A 'unique' source is always bad for marketing !
I already requested 'The cage' if I can purchase the fan club CD
only, not with the paper 'newsletter' that honestly I do not have the time (or the will) to read, the answer was a flat NO ! For the fan club (and the artist), it is a flat lost of revenue.
I do not think it is fair to sell fan clubs CD this way ! I am always willing to support the artists for their work ... but nobody will ever force me to purchase something that I do not want ;)
QuoteI already requested 'The cage' if I can purchase the fan club CD only, not with the paper 'newsletter' that honestly I do not have the time (or the will) to read, the answer was a flat NO ! For the fan club (and the artist), it is a flat lost of revenue.
I do not think it is fair to sell fan clubs CD this way ! I am always willing to support the artists for their work ... but nobody will ever force me to purchase something that I do not want
I think you're missing the point! The fan club IS in the process of changing so that it will be web based with FREE membership which will allow ANYONE to just buy the fan club CD's if they want to!! If people don't want to read the newsletter, latest tour news etc. then they needn't bother, they can just buy the fan club CD's at a reasonable price and then log off. Surely the more people we can encourage to join the FREE fan club and feel a bit more involved with the band, then the better it is for everyone!
Arena have just released their Sixth full length studio album so how about "Six of the Best" ?
Quote from: Simtere on Tue, 2005-03-01, 15:09:19
Arena have just released their Sixth full length studio album so how about "Six of the Best" ?
Please don't start Xanxtuary off. :( ;) ;D
What about "Dekalogue"-title?
This is really great. What started off as a topic for creative would-be titles is now turning into a discussion about the form and the actual realization of this would-be album for which these would-be titles are intended. :-)
Isn't this supposed to be the moment were Clive gets in, says it might be an idea and promises to take a look at the possibilities?? (Yeah, I witnessed the birth of this really cool project called Contagion - The Max!!!)
I'll just sit here and wait then :-)
Edit: Hurrah, I have just been upgraded to a slave!!
Quote from: The Fury on Wed, 2005-03-16, 01:22:10Edit: Hurrah, I have just been upgraded to a slave!!
BOW BEFORE YOUR KING!!! ;D
Quote from: Appelmoes?? on Wed, 2005-03-16, 17:54:28
BOP BEFORE YOUR KING!!! ;D
LOL...
Where's my niece's "Scissor Sisters" CD.... ;)
Oh yes, that's right....
Loopy borrowed it.... ;D
Sorry, didn't get that one ???
But then again... Do I WANT to know? ;D
Quote from: Appelmoes?? on Wed, 2005-03-16, 19:31:07
Sorry, didn't get that one ???
But then again... Do I WANT to know? ;D
OUCH....!
HeJePi,
What you're saying is: I don't like fanclubs, cause I'm too lazy to read their magazines!! ???
Come on: isn't it great that the band provides their most loyal following with a low-priced (or even: free!) CD? What's the fun of this kind of stuff being available to anyone in the world?
If you don't like magazines, then just don't read them, but you can't blame a fanclub for selling (or giving away) the CD's to members only, cause that's the reason to join... :D
But we're talking ancient times now: the magazine is no longer! :'(
I just though of:
"Salt out of Sand"
which hints at the Hanging Tree of course, but Arena means Sand as well (in Spanish) and it makes clear that it's the best out of much more material.... ;)
Quote from: HeJePi on Sat, 2005-02-26, 16:45:08
... and a special box package containing the re-edition of the 4 fan clubs CD ! ;D
And another vote! ;D Well done that man!
As for the 'best of' album, how about just calling it
ArenA ? :)
Quote from: Constable Hogweed on Thu, 2005-02-24, 20:22:39
Uncaged - The best of Arena.
That's the one. It gets my vote. Well done, Constable. And thanks for turning me on to this band!
All of this is scaring me....best of ???? All the band's starting to make "best of" are laking of creativity...
The best name for the next Arena "progressive rock/metal" :P album is:
Pepper's Ghost - Part II
And at what point does 'Progressive Rock' become 'Metal'?
Personally I'd love to make Pepper's Ghost II, but I suspect that would be considered a failure to evolve!.... A best of album doesn't have to represent a lack of imagination... it could be a way of introducing new fans to what Arena is all about..... :)
Quote from: Clive on Fri, 2005-05-27, 08:54:34
And at what point does 'Progressive Rock' become 'Metal'?
I believe this happens when the music becomes heavy enough to be metal (i.e. the guitar work) without the keyboards. Then they do the keyboard work. (I.e. Symphony X, Dream Theater (to a certain extent),)
It has become apparent to me that to many people, Rock & Metal becomes Progressive when keyboards and keyboard solos are added. To a *few* people I've known in the past, any Rock music with keyboards is Progressive... ???
Example:-
"Matt, you like 'Survivor' and 'Foreigner' don't you? They are prog after all...."
(I had a giggle about that one...)Â :D
Quote from: Clive on Fri, 2005-05-27, 08:54:34
A best of album doesn't have to represent a lack of imagination... it could be a way of introducing new fans to what Arena is all about..... :)
I agree. There are plenty of bands and artists out there who have released best of albums, and still have plenty of imagination to write and record great new albums! :)
At the end of the day, it is a look back at what the band have done in the past 10 years, and a compilation of the best songs from various different albums on 1 album.
...And people would be lying if they said that they don't like the idea of hearing some of their favorite songs from lots of albums on 1 CD! We may as well have some nice artwork to go with it as well! :)
I usually don't like "best of" albums, but that's because my other favourite band (E.L.O.) has about 20 different ones...too many, of course.
The making of a compilation has to be planned for future fans, not for us.
I'll buy it anyway, and will be happy only having a great artwork.
The title: "From Lions to Ghosts - The Best Of Arena"
Cheers... :)
I think that Highfire's 'From lions to ghosts' is an absolutely great title for an Arena 'best of' album. Apt and meaningful. Although 'From ghosts to lions' would be a good one too. Anti-chronological of course. I think that Clive (and the rest) should seriously consider Highfire's idea. Greetings.
Rafal
ack. :)
Quote from: Highfire on Mon, 2005-06-20, 15:14:58
The making of a compilation has to be planned for future fans, not for us.
True, but it's also nice to be able to have a band issued compilation, with artwork, etc..., with lots of tracks from different albums on it. As opposed to playing loads of different albums just for one track.
...Which is something I do...alot... 8)
Oh, well! ;D
Quote from: Constable Hogweed on Thu, 2005-02-24, 20:22:39
Uncaged - The best of Arena.
My vote is with this one. Brilliant. Very apt.
Quote from: DocSnyder on Thu, 2005-02-24, 18:40:03
No, that would be interpreted as a rip-off of Pain Of Salvation's 12:5.
or Pendragon 9:15 live!
hows about...........mmmm.............."the best of Arena"???
nah.......... not really very catchy is it?
I like the "cages & stages" idea tho!
CAx
Quote from: Highfire on Mon, 2005-06-20, 15:14:58
The title: "From Lions to Ghosts - The Best Of Arena"
Cheers... :)
Like this one, however I was getting ready to post that I liked CH's 'Uncaged' idea untill I saw this one....ummmm...decision made....both very good ideas :)