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Title: Neo line-up change
Post by: JJ II on Mon, 2007-11-19, 10:42:29
According to DPRP, Alan Reed is no longer able to do the X-mas gigs with Neo in December. That's all too bad, of course.

BUT (and here's the good news): Paul Wrightson will be completing the line-up. I really do hope this means: more Arena in the setlist !!

With John, Clive and Paul on board, I hope they treat us with a good deal of Visitor-tracks! A collection of Pendragon, IQ, Shadowland-tracks will make things complete! Marvellous!
Title: Re: Neo line-up change
Post by: Nicky007 on Mon, 2007-11-19, 11:13:53
And where will they play, JJ?

Surely not in Copenhagen, f*in nobody interesting comes to Cop, I could just as well have my computer and Walkman on the moon  :'(

Nicky.
Title: Re: Neo line-up change
Post by: Clive on Mon, 2007-11-19, 11:54:14
Sadly... there isn't much demand in Copenhagen.
We can only play places that will cover the cost of us going there... that usually demands an audience being involved.  :)
I've been there a couple of times with Arena, and to be honest, the audiences have been great but small. Scandanavia in general is not likely to be on our tour schedule in the immediate future. It's a shame, but there we are. Actually, an exception to this is Trondheim in Norway... for some reason, we have always had sizable audiences out there.
Title: Re: Neo line-up change
Post by: Nicky007 on Mon, 2007-11-19, 12:06:38
Yeah, Clive, Claus from Intromental told me about Arena's last concert in Cop. Great concert (he's one of your biggest fans btw), but only a handful of proggies there.

We have to face that Danes are nice people, but very self-sufficient. And prog? Forget it here.

Nicky.
Title: Re: Neo line-up change
Post by: Appelmoes?? on Mon, 2007-11-19, 12:47:15
They probably like the rougher stuff... *horns* ;)
Title: Re: Neo line-up change
Post by: Nicky007 on Mon, 2007-11-19, 12:56:14
Quote from: Appelmoes?? on Mon, 2007-11-19, 12:47:15
They probably like the rougher stuff... *horns* ;)

The problem here is that people dont have much patience with music and that they dont listen to lyrics, so it's either the Madonna and James Blunt style "oh, baby, do it to me", or the In Flames style Leeches and Your Bedtime Story Is Scaring Everyone.

Sometimes I wish I had stayed in B'ham, but when I was five, my Mum and Dad were much bigger than me  :-\

Nicky.
Title: Re: Neo line-up change
Post by: JJ II on Mon, 2007-11-19, 17:00:47
and..... no one enthusiastic about Paul doing some gigs?  ???
Title: Re: Neo line-up change
Post by: Clive on Mon, 2007-11-19, 23:58:12
Well... I'm looking forward to it.... should be a blast.
Don't forget the dates! Lets hope we see a few forum members manage to get to these gigs!

21 Dec 2007   20:00    Weststadthalle    Essen
22 Dec 2007   20:00    Boerderij   Zoetermeer
Title: Re: Neo line-up change
Post by: JJ II on Tue, 2007-11-20, 10:36:51
I'll be there... will the be a new setlist, compared to the NEO-DVD?
How long wil the set be?
Title: Re: Neo line-up change
Post by: Clive on Tue, 2007-11-20, 11:17:02
A little different, I think...
Maybe a couple of extra Arena tracks.... bit less Pallas (obviously).... something Christmassy too, perhaps.
I think we should be able to coax John Mitchell on for a couple of songs too...
Title: Re: Neo line-up change
Post by: JJ II on Tue, 2007-11-20, 12:18:43
Wow that's excellent news!  Any chance you play anything of his wonderful 'outside-Arena' material (think of Kino, It Bites, The Urbane)?
Title: Re: Neo line-up change
Post by: Nicky007 on Tue, 2007-11-20, 12:20:08
Clive, it would interest me to know if you guys have any contact with Gary Hughes & Co.

I experience that Arena, Pallas and Ten are very close to each other, both musically and lyrics-wise.

Also for Neo, there might be some possibilities here.

Nicky.
Title: Re: Neo line-up change
Post by: PH on Tue, 2007-11-20, 14:51:24
Quote from: Nicky007 on Tue, 2007-11-20, 12:20:08I experience that Arena, Pallas and Ten are very close to each other, both musically and lyrics-wise.

Don't forget Threshold in that list!

22 Dec 2007...
Hmmm interesting! ;D


-Paco
Title: Re: Neo line-up change
Post by: Nicky007 on Tue, 2007-11-20, 15:13:47
Quote from: PH on Tue, 2007-11-20, 14:51:24
Don't forget Threshold in that list!

OK, Paco, I just wanted to keep it to three.

Man, I would give a fortune to see Neo live ..... but unfortunately what I do have is pretty much the opposite. Rocky, where are you ?? ? !!!

Bluey, does your insurance company insure travels to prog concerts?  ;D

Nicky.
Title: Re: Neo line-up change
Post by: JJ II on Wed, 2007-11-21, 16:51:18
Clive,

Considering the new line-up, would like us to do some suggestions for songs we want to hear from this marvellous prog-juke-box called Neo?

BTW, keep the shadz tracks in (Ring of Roses?)
Title: Re: Neo line-up change
Post by: cabo on Wed, 2007-11-21, 18:26:46
Quote from: Clive on Mon, 2007-11-19, 11:54:14
Actually, an exception to this is Trondheim in Norway... for some reason, we have always had sizable audiences out there.
I'm one of them :)
Title: Re: Neo line-up change
Post by: Clive on Wed, 2007-11-21, 18:38:16
JJ... to be honest with the workload of each musician, we can't really start changing the planned set too much.
having said that, there are still possible changes being made to the evening... maybe more musicians etc... not sure yet. I'm sure it will be entertaining whatever.

Now we just need to see planty of people there. Come on guys... its Christmas - a chance for a little festivity. Lets see a little effort.... or is this forum simply 'arm-chair' based?...;)
Title: Re: Neo line-up change
Post by: PH on Wed, 2007-11-21, 19:30:54
LOL

Yes I'd really like to be there!
So I'm going to call some friends to ask if they will come along!


-Paco
Title: Re: Neo line-up change
Post by: bluepony on Thu, 2007-11-22, 10:13:26
Quote from: Clive on Mon, 2007-11-19, 23:58:12
Well... I'm looking forward to it.... should be a blast.
Don't forget the dates! Lets hope we see a few forum members manage to get to these gigs!

21 Dec 2007   20:00    Weststadthalle    Essen
22 Dec 2007   20:00    Boerderij   Zoetermeer
Hmmm.... interesting! Can't make it to Essen I think, but does anybody know a good B&B in Zoetermeer?!
Title: Re: Neo line-up change
Post by: Nicky007 on Thu, 2007-11-22, 10:17:21
Quote from: bluepony on Thu, 2007-11-22, 10:13:26
Hmmm.... interesting! Can't make it to Essen I think, but does anybody know a good B&B in Zoetermeer?!

Yes, Tom's! - Would even be for free  ;D

Nicky.
Title: Re: Neo line-up change
Post by: bluepony on Thu, 2007-11-22, 10:40:00
Ha, ha, Nicky. You're such a funny guy!

No, seriously - I'll have "holidays" from the 22nd on and it would be a great way to start the Christmas break (i. e. with a short vacation and a great gig).
I've heard some rumous about who might show up as a guest musician for the gigs...  ;D
Title: Re: Neo line-up change
Post by: JJ II on Thu, 2007-11-22, 11:58:21
QuoteI've heard some rumous about who might show up as a guest musician for the gigs... 

Hmm.... is it a vocalist or an instrumentalist?

QuoteJJ... to be honest with the workload of each musician, we can't really start changing the planned set too much.

I understand. I don't know how long the setlist is at the moment. I wouldn't mind some solo bits here and there, if that's easier for rehearsal. You could do "So the music stops" (beautiful!) or "Mea Culpa" and John M. could do an acoustic "Beautiful Sun". Sorry, my fantasy gets carried away. 

QuoteCan't make it to Essen I think, but does anybody know a good B&B in Zoetermeer?!

B&B aren't very common in the area, but there are some hotels: http://www.google.nl/search?hl=nl&q=hotel+zoetermeer&meta=  (http://www.google.nl/search?hl=nl&q=hotel+zoetermeer&meta=)
Title: Re: Neo line-up change
Post by: Nicky007 on Thu, 2007-11-22, 12:20:49
Quote from: bluepony on Thu, 2007-11-22, 10:40:00
Ha, ha, Nicky. You're such a funny guy!

Paco says so too, so I'm beginnin to believe it  ;D

> I've heard some rumours about who might show up as a guest musician for the gigs...  ;D

Yes: Paco! But that is just a rumor (started by me)  ;D

Nicky.
Title: Re: Neo line-up change
Post by: bluepony on Thu, 2007-11-22, 12:40:33
Quote from: JJ II on Thu, 2007-11-22, 11:58:21
Hmm.... is it a vocalist or an instrumentalist?
Hmm.... both, I think (in one person).  ;D

Quote from: Nicky007 on Thu, 2007-11-22, 12:20:49
> I've heard some rumours about who might show up as a guest musician for the gigs...  ;D

Yes: Paco! But that is just a rumor (started by me)  ;D
Nope, it's not Paco! But I don't know how much of it is confirmed yet - or if I'm supposed to talk about it at all...
Title: Re: Neo line-up change
Post by: bluepony on Thu, 2007-11-22, 12:43:11
Quote from: JJ II on Thu, 2007-11-22, 11:58:21
B&B aren't very common in the area, but there are some hotels: http://www.google.nl/search?hl=nl&q=hotel+zoetermeer&meta=  (http://www.google.nl/search?hl=nl&q=hotel+zoetermeer&meta=)
Nice one! Thanks, JJ, very helpful - I'll have a look at those.
Title: Re: Neo line-up change
Post by: PH on Thu, 2007-11-22, 16:28:55
Quote from: bluepony on Thu, 2007-11-22, 12:40:33Nope, it's not Paco!
Tssss...
You doubt my vocalist powers?
I'm already rehearsing! Arena's Painted Man is a nice one to sing. ;) I hope most of you will be there, 'cuz this is the first time ever for me to show my vocal abilities!

I will also be playing some mouth-organ and even a bit on a mellotron (but I won't tell you more about it 'cuz that song is very special and has never been played by Arena on stage).


-Paco
Title: Re: Neo line-up change
Post by: The Butterfly Man on Thu, 2007-11-22, 21:58:32
Quote from: Nicky007 on Thu, 2007-11-22, 10:17:21
Yes, Tom's! - Would even be for free  ;D

Nicky.

Hahahaha, actually, I dó live nearby! ;D :P
Title: Re: Neo line-up change
Post by: Clive on Thu, 2007-11-22, 23:23:45
Ok Guys!
Sorry.... but I have bad news. We have had to cancel the NEO gigs. We had been plagued by a series of problems, and they eventually got the better of us.
Appologies again for this, but trust me... we tried!

Gigs postponed till next year now...
Title: Re: Neo line-up change
Post by: Nicky007 on Fri, 2007-11-23, 00:00:30
Yes, that is sad, Clive. Thanks for trying.

The good news is that it gives you more time for the Arena album, which is what we're really waiting for, isnt it guys?

You might not have scores of fans as compared to some other groups, but for us, Arena music fills us with joy!

So keep that in mind while you're making the album.

Nicky.
Title: Re: Neo line-up change
Post by: bluepony on Fri, 2007-11-23, 10:02:33
Quote from: Clive on Thu, 2007-11-22, 23:23:45
Ok Guys!
Sorry.... but I have bad news. We have had to cancel the NEO gigs. We had been plagued by a series of problems, and they eventually got the better of us.
Appologies again for this, but trust me... we tried!

Gigs postponed till next year now...

Oh nooooo! What am I to do with my Christmas break now?! I was already looking forward to that gig!  :(
(And maybe a chance to see if Tom's house really is that messy.)  ;)
Title: Re: Neo line-up change
Post by: bluepony on Fri, 2007-11-23, 10:19:43
Quote from: Nicky007 on Fri, 2007-11-23, 00:00:30
The good news is that it gives you more time for the Arena album, which is what we're really waiting for, isnt it guys?

Well, Nicky, you're certainly right - but I would indeed have enjoyed a NEO gig! It would've sure been great to see Paul Wrightson back on stage (for example)...

Quote from: Nicky007 on Fri, 2007-11-23, 00:00:30
You might not have scores of fans as compared to some other groups, but for us, Arena music fills us with joy!

So keep that in mind while you're making the album.

Nicky.
Which is a crying shame!!!  >:(
Title: Re: Neo line-up change
Post by: PH on Fri, 2007-11-23, 10:30:03
Nooo....

But there will be a NEO gig in 2008 hopefully?

-Paco
Title: Re: Neo line-up change
Post by: bluepony on Fri, 2007-11-23, 10:31:20
Quote from: PH on Fri, 2007-11-23, 10:30:03
But there will be a NEO gig in 2008 hopefully?

Yes... please...! *fingers crossed*
Title: Re: Neo line-up change
Post by: Nicky007 on Fri, 2007-11-23, 11:30:03
Quote from: bluepony on Fri, 2007-11-23, 10:02:33
(And maybe a chance to see if Tom's house really is that messy.)  ;)

Now dont you confuse Tom with Appy! You cant just say that all men are alike, Bluey - you wont get away with it in this forum!  ;D

Nicky.
Title: Re: Neo line-up change
Post by: bluepony on Fri, 2007-11-23, 11:40:30
Quote from: Nicky007 on Fri, 2007-11-23, 11:30:03
Now dont you confuse Tom with Appy! You cant just say that all men are alike, Bluey - you wont get away with it in this forum!  ;D

Nicky.
Well, maybe not men are alike, but most men on this forum are Dutch - VERY confusing!!  ;)

A big sorry to Tom and Applemoes?? - I'm a very famous "goldfish brain", so I hope you can forgive me!
Title: Re: Neo line-up change
Post by: Nicky007 on Fri, 2007-11-23, 11:45:36
Quote from: bluepony on Fri, 2007-11-23, 11:40:30
Well, maybe not men are alike, but most men on this forum are Dutch - VERY confusing!!  ;)

A big sorry to Tom and Applemoes?? - I'm a very famous "goldfish brain", so I hope you can forgive me!

Fortunately it's not the brain in women that interests us men, Bluey  ;D

Nicky.
Title: Re: Neo line-up change
Post by: bluepony on Fri, 2007-11-23, 11:53:12
Quote from: Nicky007 on Fri, 2007-11-23, 11:45:36
Fortunately it's not the brain in women that interests us men, Bluey  ;D

I know - it's our musical tastes and preferences, right?  ;)
Title: Re: Neo line-up change
Post by: PH on Fri, 2007-11-23, 14:40:58
Well, it's very important that a woman can cook!


-Paco
Title: Re: Neo line-up change
Post by: bluepony on Fri, 2007-11-23, 16:11:16
Quote from: PH on Fri, 2007-11-23, 14:40:58
Well, it's very important that a woman can cook!


-Paco
Ah... anything else?  ;)
Title: Re: Neo line-up change
Post by: The Butterfly Man on Fri, 2007-11-23, 17:04:15
Quote from: bluepony on Fri, 2007-11-23, 10:02:33
Oh nooooo! What am I to do with my Christmas break now?! I was already looking forward to that gig!  :(
(And maybe a chance to see if Tom's house really is that messy.)  ;)


Although you confuse me with Appy (as Nicky likes to calls him) you're still very welcome to come over and see my house!  ;) :D ;D

Tom

Edit: What!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!? This was my 200th post on this forum. Let's all celebrate with a couple of beers tonight my friends!  *ola*
Title: Re: Neo line-up change
Post by: bluepony on Fri, 2007-11-23, 17:09:56
Quote from: The Butterfly Man on Fri, 2007-11-23, 17:04:15
Although you confuse me with Appy (as Nicky likes to calls him)
Yes... erm... very sorry for the mixup!  :-[ :-[ :-[


Quote from: The Butterfly Man on Fri, 2007-11-23, 17:04:15
... you're still very welcome to come over and see my house!  ;) :D ;D

Tom
Oooh, you'd better be careful - I might!  ;)


Quote from: The Butterfly Man on Fri, 2007-11-23, 17:04:15
Edit: What!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!? This was my 200th post on this forum. Let's all celebrate with a couple of beers tonight my friends!  *ola*
:D

Let me see if I've still got some of Appy's birthday beer left...  ;)  ;D
Title: Re: Neo line-up change
Post by: The Butterfly Man on Fri, 2007-11-23, 17:16:39
Quote from: bluepony on Fri, 2007-11-23, 17:09:56
Oooh, you'd better be careful - I might!  ;)

:D

As I said, you will be welcome... :D

Quote
Let me see if I've still got some of Appy's birthday beer left...  ;)  ;D

You better have, 'cause my birthday is next week! ;)

Cheers!

By the way, the above was your 700th post! So run to the store and buy yourself some more beer. You've got a lot to celebrate all of a sudden! 8)
Title: Re: Neo line-up change
Post by: Nicky007 on Fri, 2007-11-23, 17:21:39
Quote from: The Butterfly Man on Fri, 2007-11-23, 17:04:15
Edit: What!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!? This was my 200th post on this forum. Let's all celebrate with a couple of beers tonight my friends!

200th post  ::)  You're still a child, Tom  ;D

But I'll take the beer anyhow. Skål  *horns*

These sort of silly posts help me graduate  :D

Catchin up with Paco the Pacer  ;)

Nicky.

Title: Re: Neo line-up change
Post by: bluepony on Fri, 2007-11-23, 17:23:03
Somebody should stop you, Nicky... I still can't believe how you can be an Imperator! ;)
Title: Re: Neo line-up change
Post by: Appelmoes?? on Fri, 2007-11-23, 17:23:51
I still can't believe why you are not ??? ;D
Title: Re: Neo line-up change
Post by: bluepony on Fri, 2007-11-23, 17:27:10
Working on it...  ;D
Title: Re: Neo line-up change
Post by: JJ II on Mon, 2007-11-26, 09:17:16
QuoteSorry.... but I have bad news. We have had to cancel the NEO gigs. We had been plagued by a series of problems, and they eventually got the better of us.

Aaaarrrghh.... that's a BIG disappointment. I was really looking forward to it, and -from my point of view- the announcements of Paul and maybe even John joining, was an even better reason to look forward to this gig.

Was it the logistics that troubled you?
Title: Re: Neo line-up change
Post by: Clive on Mon, 2007-11-26, 09:40:51
There was just a series of problems... eventually we ran out of time to solve them all.
I would like to get Alan back on board... as well as Paul. Then we can put more of a show on next year.
Title: Re: Neo line-up change
Post by: JJ II on Mon, 2007-11-26, 10:16:27
That sounds great! I love Alan's performance and voice. Paul and Alan would be awesome!

Any idea which period of the new years this will happen?

BTW, you could do a small poll here to find out what kind of 'other' material fans would like to hear.  ;)
Title: Re: Neo line-up change
Post by: bluepony on Mon, 2007-11-26, 11:30:17
Quote from: Clive on Mon, 2007-11-26, 09:40:51
There was just a series of problems... eventually we ran out of time to solve them all.
Bummer! :(

Quote from: Clive on Mon, 2007-11-26, 09:40:51
I would like to get Alan back on board... as well as Paul. Then we can put more of a show on next year.
Well, whatever - as long as it will happen!  :)
Title: Re: Neo line-up change
Post by: PH on Mon, 2007-11-26, 16:14:06
Quote from: JJ II on Mon, 2007-11-26, 10:16:27BTW, you could do a small poll here to find out what kind of 'other' material fans would like to hear.  ;)

That's a really good idea!
If Clive wants to do a poll, that would be cool.

I hope there will be a NEO gig in 2008 (in the not too distant future...)

-Paco
Title: Re: Neo line-up change
Post by: bluepony on Mon, 2007-11-26, 17:28:02
Quote from: PH on Mon, 2007-11-26, 16:14:06
I hope there will be a NEO gig in 2008 (in the not too distant future...)

-Paco
Hope so too... and maybe another Caamora show!