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Seventh son of a seventh son

Started by Constable Hogweed, Fri, 2005-01-28, 18:25:09

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Constable Hogweed

Anyone else love this classic Iron Maiden album? I remember that they got slated for the use of synths on it, but for me its a brilliant ( and dare i say it ) prog-metal album. I have always had an affection for Maiden anyway, but this album was the pinnacle.
Cheers
Hogweed

Peter

Heya Constable,

sorry to disappoint you, but Maiden is really not my style. In general I don't like bands/lyrics that trifle with 'devil issues'.
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Constable Hogweed

hi Peter
I think that on closer inspection you will find that Maiden do not trifle with devil issues. Ok "The number of the beast" went down that road, but in the main you will find that Steve Harris ( Maiden bassist and chief songwriter ) is searching for the truth of why we are on this mortal coil and where we are headed to. but heyyy this is all a matter of opinion and thank you for sharing yours. :)

Cheers
Hogweed

Peter

Hehe, OK, maybe I never spent enough time looking at the lyrics more closely.
I actually find 'Brave New World' quite ... good.
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Constable Hogweed

Hi again Peter. Indeed "Brave new world" is a solid Maiden album. Give "Dreams Of mirrors" a listen if you have it. It kinda sums up where Steve Harris is at.

I only dream in black and white
I only dream cos i'm alive
I only dream in black and white
To save me from myself


Mr Harris does seem to have a dream/deja-vu/reincarnation thing going. As a christian i don't agree with some of his lyrics, but boy is that man searching.

Harris trivia - did you know that Harris was heavily influenced by the earlier "Wishbone Ash" albums and that one of his favourite songs is "Suppers Ready" ............And no i am not Steve Harris.  ;) ;D

Cheers
Hogweed

kmorse

I was reading a review of Maiden's "Dance of Death" album and came across a reference to the drummer being a "conservative Christian," and how that came out in some of the lyrics of one song.

I'm not a big Maiden follower, but it seems like that band got unfairly tagged with the Satanic label.
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Moonloop

I may be wrong (it happens  ;D ) but I seem to remember it was the "Somewhere in Time" album which got slated for the use of synths whereas "7th Son" was regarded as something of a return to form. Whatever, I've enjoyed all Maiden's output and hope they carry on well into the next decade and beyond.

The "Early Days" DVD really spells it out for anyone wanting an Iron Maiden history lesson.

;D
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Draddi

Well, I have to admit "7th Son" is not one of my favourites, though I really like Maiden and especially Dickinson's voice.
To me he is actually the only link I see between Maiden and Prog, he could easily convince me on a prog stage.
Hogweed, you should try Dickinson's "Chemical Wedding" or "Accident of Birth", you might get into it, too.

And really Guys, "trifling with Devil issues". I thought, we are over this stupid 80's where people who have never listened to a single Metal album simply labelled every Band as satanic.
They were all shitfaced on stage, drugged as hell and many other things, but satanic ? Maybe only a few but Maiden definitely not.
Peter, please don't do that to me. It's as if I would say to you that Marillion's lyrics were pornographic.... ;)

Peter

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gelert

Quote from: Draddi on Sat, 2005-02-05, 06:52:52
It's as if I would say to you that Marillion's lyrics were pornographic.... ;)

...well, there's a rude word in Garden Party...  ;D
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Draddi

Quote from: gelert on Sun, 2005-02-06, 03:01:53
...well, there's a rude word in Garden Party...  ;D
.....what are the odds of that  :D
it took me forever to find a decent comparison and now that, what a faux pas .  ;)

gelert

Quote from: Draddi on Sun, 2005-02-06, 10:59:39
.....what are the odds of that...
it took me forever to find a decent comparison and now that, what a fowe pah....

Ok, but it's only a little rude word....

...hardly worth mentioning...

In fact, forget I ever said anything about it at all....

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Appelmoes??

Quote from: Draddi on Sat, 2005-02-05, 06:52:52
To me he is actually the only link I see between Maiden and Prog, he could easily convince me on a prog stage.
He did to me. Here's a link where you can find an audiosample of Bruce singing on Ayreon - Flight of the Migrator. '

(Yes, some more Ayreon from me 8) )
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Draddi

Quote from: Appelmoes?? on Mon, 2005-02-07, 22:41:47
He did to me. Here's a link where you can find an audiosample of Bruce singing on Ayreon - Flight of the Migrator. '

(Yes, some more Ayreon from me 8) )

True ! How could I forget that, being fan of Ayreon since good old Arjen walked me through his "Electric Castle" for the first time....
so Peter, you see... q.e.d.  :)

Constable Hogweed

Quote from: Draddi on Sat, 2005-02-05, 06:52:52
Well, I have to admit "7th Son" is not one of my favourites, though I really like Maiden and especially Dickinson's voice.
To me he is actually the only link I see between Maiden and Prog, he could easily convince me on a prog stage.
Hogweed, you should try Dickinson's "Chemical Wedding" or "Accident of Birth", you might get into it, too.

And really Guys, "trifling with Devil issues". I thought, we are over this stupid 80's where people who have never listened to a single Metal album simply labelled every Band as satanic.
They were all shitfaced on stage, drugged as hell and many other things, but satanic ? Maybe only a few but Maiden definitely not.
Peter, please don't do that to me. It's as if I would say to you that Marillion's lyrics were pornographic.... ;)

Hi Draddi
Yeaaa i love "Accident of birth" and " The chemical wedding" great stuff. Bruce was at the peak of his powers on those two albums. I saw Bruce supporting Lynnrd Skynnrd in 1997 and in my opinion, the sheer depth and emotion of his material ( It was the "Accident of birth" tour ) blew the skyns away on this particular night.

Nicky007

#15
Guess once I got my fill of Priest for a while, I should turn to Maiden. Never properly delved into'm .....

However, I think I know'm well enuff to be assured that they'r not "satanic" in any way.

I think more like Goethe's Faust, Cap, that if you want knowledge, i.e. to be progressive, ya gotta strike some deals with mundane powers  :-\

Honestly, I don't think that any of the groups we listen to regularly in the Room are satanic  :)


Quote from: Draddi on Sat, 2005-02-05, 06:52:52
Peter, please don't do that to me. It's as if I would say to you that Marillion's lyrics were pornographic.... ;)

"Lady Nina, I'd love to take you home with me
But I love my wife and I love my family
I've got a good job, responsibilities
And I need to keep respect from society
I know you'll never act with me
I know that you're in love with me
So how do I compare to the sailors of the ships of the night?
Was I all right? Did you come tonight, Lady Nina?"

;D

Nicky.
So you've come of age
And so you want to meet God
Sure you can
He's right here next to me

Peter

Gawd, where's my censorship script.... all that pr0n in here... yikey ;)
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