Author Topic: New Singer....... (Read 19326 times)

johninblack · « **on:** Sat, 2010-10-23, 09:11:08 »

Quote from: Clive's facebook

Clive Nolan Wow... you people are like hungry wolves... Oliver?? Was he kneeling in that picture?.. Tell what... we will announce Mr X on November 1st.... that's official

Not too long to wait. Personally I'll be really delighted if it turns out to be Alan Reed, but whoever it is I'm sure they will be welcomed by all here.

Teunis · « **Reply #1 on:** Sat, 2010-10-23, 12:58:48 »

Yeah, I've read that too on FB. I'm with you, hoping for mr. Reed as singer, but the distance (the reason that he was sacked with Pallas) could be a problem.

maddox · « **Reply #2 on:** Sat, 2010-10-23, 16:29:52 »

Quote from: Teunis on Sat, 2010-10-23, 12:58:48

Yeah, I've read that too on FB. I'm with you, hoping for mr. Reed as singer, but the distance (the reason that he was sacked with Pallas) could be a problem.

I'm not!

Sorry, folks but I really can't picture Alan with Arena.

PH · « **Reply #3 on:** Sat, 2010-10-23, 17:49:42 »

Quote from: johninblack on Sat, 2010-10-23, 09:11:08

Alan Reed

A big possibility.
I wouldn't mind if it were him, although I cannot imagine him singing Arena songs yet...
Could it also be Mac (ex-Threshold)? (I was listening to some Threshold today

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johninblack · « **Reply #4 on:** Sun, 2010-10-24, 09:55:03 »

Quote from: PH on Sat, 2010-10-23, 17:49:42

A big possibility.
I wouldn't mind if it were him, although I cannot imagine him singing Arena songs yet...
Could it also be Mac (ex-Threshold)? (I was listening to some Threshold today )

Mac would be my second favourite

johninblack · « **Reply #5 on:** Sun, 2010-10-24, 09:56:40 »

Actually my first choice for Arena singer would be Damian Wilson.

maddox · « **Reply #6 on:** Sun, 2010-10-24, 09:59:14 »

Mac or Wilson?

Hmm....

Would you both consider them as neo-prog singers?

JJ II · « **Reply #7 on:** Mon, 2010-10-25, 16:36:46 »

In the past Arena have never chosen any member with much of a history or back catalogue. John Jowitt was the only one, simply because he sort of offered himself (and he had worked with Clive before). Remember: even Mitchell was a name without a face back in 1996. So: no Wilson, Reed or Mac, I'd say.

Secondly: their usual 'modus operandi' is “to go through word of mouth, rather than advertise, because although you might find someone, you don’t really know them for a long time (source: C.Nolan in "The Salt and The Sand")."

They found Mitchell through Mark Westwood (their roadie, businesspartner to Jowitt) and Rob through Mitchell. Ian was in Shadowland with Clive.

If this modus is consistent, the new singer will be: someone known to a member of the band but with little or no work of his own.

$:-\$

maddox · « **Reply #8 on:** Mon, 2010-10-25, 21:11:12 »

Quote from: JJ II on Mon, 2010-10-25, 16:36:46

In the past Arena have never chosen any member with much of a history or back catalogue. John Jowitt was the only one, simply because he sort of offered himself (and he had worked with Clive before). Remember: even Mitchell was a name without a face back in 1996. So: no Wilson, Reed or Mac, I'd say.

Secondly: their usual 'modus operandi' is “to go through word of mouth, rather than advertise, because although you might find someone, you don’t really know them for a long time (source: C.Nolan in "The Salt and The Sand")."

They found Mitchell through Mark Westwood (their roadie, businesspartner to Jowitt) and Rob through Mitchell. Ian was in Shadowland with Clive.

If this modus is consistent, the new singer will be: someone known to a member of the band but with little or no work of his own.

$:-\$

Like I said: Brian Cummings.

Bupie · « **Reply #9 on:** Tue, 2010-10-26, 08:33:04 »

I don't know whether Mac and Threshold parted in good terms, despite the official announcement, since he left the band at the beginning or in the middle of a tour (if I remember correctly).

Since Karl Groom is a close friend of Clive, a founder member of Shadowland and has worked on P&G, maybe Mac would not be welcome

Anyway, JJII demonstrated that the new singer is still an unknown hero

Nicky007 · « **Reply #10 on:** Tue, 2010-10-26, 12:03:53 »

I had the impression that Mac simply got tired of being the singer of Threshold with all that it implied.

The thesis that Arena takes unknown singers has some modifications. E.g. Clive recorded Caamora She with Alan and Christina and toured with them. Clive and Alan seem to work very well together.

Certainly Alan sings differently from Rob, but he doesnt need to do all the earlier songs. This could be a new phase for Arena. If Alan gets into the mix now, he could bring his enormous talent to bear

I would also be happy with Mac or Damian

Nicky.

JJ II · « **Reply #11 on:** Tue, 2010-10-26, 16:28:08 »

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The thesis that Arena takes unknown singers has some modifications. E.g. Clive recorded Caamora She with Alan and Christina and toured with them.

She is a musical/rock-opera, not a band. So any comparison goes down the drain....

Out of all Arena-members, only the bass-players had some name in prog-circles. Three singers and two guitarists didn't. Of course I can be mistaken, but I seriously doubt whether Clive and Mick will bring someone with a big name and song-catalogue.

PS: Mac's departure from Threshold was far from friendly.

Nicky007 · « **Reply #12 on:** Tue, 2010-10-26, 17:52:42 »

Quote from: JJ II on Tue, 2010-10-26, 16:28:08

She is a musical/rock-opera, not a band. So any comparison goes down the drain....

Down yours (not up yours

), but not mine. Arena is very much Clive, as we all know

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Mac's departure from Threshold was far from friendly.

OK. I didnt know much about it, but you obviously do, JJ II. Sad

Mac is a great singer. Hope he soon gets another chance.

Nicky.

johninblack · « **Reply #13 on:** Tue, 2010-10-26, 20:03:39 »

I'm quite sure whoever "Mr X" is he will be a welcome addition to the Arena family be it a "known" person or an "Unknown" person.
I believe Mac left Threshold two or three days before the start of a major tour, that implies to me a far from "friendly" parting of company.
Anyway, six more days and all the speculation will be irrelevant

Nicky007 · « **Reply #14 on:** Wed, 2010-10-27, 12:36:45 »

Here's Mac's statement on Threshold's official chatforum at Ultimatemetal:

Mac's Statement

Sorry it took so long to give this statement. But, I'm also sorry it took me so long to realise I had to get on with the rest of my life and eventually make a decent living. I know the timing was bad and I'm very grateful to Damian for standing in for me. Unfortunately it's absolutely impossible to live on fresh air alone. Next time you listen to a Threshold album picture my girlfriend having to work overtime to make it possible for me to go on tour, not to mention all the jobs I chose to give up to continue with Threshold. Once again, the timing was bad.... I was up all Friday night (13.07.2007) considering this and decided it was time to support my family 100%. For all the Fans out there take what you have and enjoy it (I know I was devastated when Led Zeppelin came to an end). Thanks for all your support, all the best for Threshold and Threshold Fans for the future, Cheers Mac.

This is actually very much the impression I had.

He has been criticized by many for his timing, informing the Threshold guys of his decision to leave the band few days before a major tour.

Fortunately Damian could take over.

Did any Roomie experience a concert on this tour ? (answer in the Threshold thread)

Nicky.

Teunis · « **Reply #15 on:** Wed, 2010-10-27, 20:00:53 »

The waiting is almost over, this is what Clive Noland wrote today on his Facebook:
"Arena rehearsal in a couple of hours... After that I think we'll introduce the singer - he's been wearing that bag on his head for too long! Announcement this evening...."

Niquicho · « **Reply #16 on:** Wed, 2010-10-27, 20:55:10 »

It's been evening for quite a while but no news yet on Facebook.

Teunis · « **Reply #17 on:** Wed, 2010-10-27, 21:30:21 »

At last:

Quote Clive Nolan:
"Meet Arena's new singer, Paul Manzi. Known for his work with 'Raw Glory' and, of course, 'The Oliver Wakeman Band'... and now he has taken up the challenge of being the Arena frontman! Good luck Paul!.."

Don't know him, but I'll check him out as soon as I find time

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Teunis · « **Reply #18 on:** Wed, 2010-10-27, 21:42:44 »

Judge for yourself

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=frve4DOSUsI

The Butterfly Man · « **Reply #19 on:** Wed, 2010-10-27, 21:50:03 »

Quote from: Teunis on Wed, 2010-10-27, 21:42:44

Judge for yourself .

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=frve4DOSUsI

Teunis, you beat me to it!

Here´s another sample: http://www.myspace.com/oliverwakemanband

Tom

ironcow2103 · « **Reply #20 on:** Wed, 2010-10-27, 23:10:49 »

Not too dissimilar to Rob. Saw him in the OWB a few years back and thought he was quite good...

JJ II · « **Reply #21 on:** Thu, 2010-10-28, 09:36:09 »

Great voice! Personally, he reminds me more of Paul W. than of Rob... I can hear him sing The Visitor, or even Sirens!

PH · « **Reply #22 on:** Thu, 2010-10-28, 11:57:35 »

Don't know him, but he sounds really good. He has a powerful voice.
And yes, I can imagine him singing Arena songs!

Quote from: JJ II on Thu, 2010-10-28, 09:36:09

Great voice! Personally, he reminds me more of Paul W. than of Rob... I can hear him sing The Visitor, or even Sirens!

Yes definitely!!

Good luck to Paul the 2nd!

ironcow2103 · « **Reply #23 on:** Thu, 2010-10-28, 13:18:53 »

Quote from: JJ II on Thu, 2010-10-28, 09:36:09

Personally, he reminds me more of Paul W. than of Rob...

Listening back to the OWB album he sounds much deeper and Rob like than the live DVD which I can see what you mean about the Paul similarity! Obviously Clive has picked the perfect half way house to sing both eras!

JJ II · « **Reply #24 on:** Thu, 2010-10-28, 13:44:26 »

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Listening back to the OWB album he sounds much deeper and Rob like

What do you mean by 'deeper': lower, or more intimate?

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