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Who makes these line-up changes
« on: Sat, 2011-06-18, 09:27:42 »

Who makes these line-up changes
Who makes the final stand
That's Clive who doesn't pay anything
And wants a better band

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Re: Who makes these line-up changes
« Reply #1 on: Sat, 2011-06-18, 13:07:52 »
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Re: Who makes these line-up changes
« Reply #2 on: Sat, 2011-06-18, 21:49:31 »
Who makes these line-up changes
Who makes the final stand
That's Clive who doesn't pay anything
And wants a better band

What exactly do you mean with this poem? ;)
Because you can go many ways with this...

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Re: Who makes these line-up changes
« Reply #3 on: Wed, 2011-06-22, 15:29:07 »
Sounds like some sort of insider riddle and a complaint, and it looks like we're not getting further information on the subject...
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Re: Who makes these line-up changes
« Reply #4 on: Thu, 2011-06-23, 20:39:42 »
Who makes these line-up changes
Who waves a final hand
When I can hear new vocalist sing
And he ***** at singing that
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Re: Who makes these line-up changes
« Reply #5 on: Thu, 2011-06-23, 21:45:09 »
Can't agree, saw the band live last year November. The band rocked, including the new singer. He had short time to rehearse/learn the lyrics and did a great job  *horns*.
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Re: Who makes these line-up changes
« Reply #6 on: Sat, 2011-06-25, 14:55:45 »
Erm, now it's getting rather unfriendly. Either you, Andy, edit it, or I will.

Inappropriate language, (plus stating an opinion as a fact, which is not as bad, as we all learned....)

And such from an artist.... ^^

If you're a friend of his and he'd laugh at your comment and slap you in the face in a friend-to-friend-manner, OK, correct me.
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Re: Who makes these line-up changes
« Reply #7 on: Sat, 2011-06-25, 15:05:04 »
Seconded, Cap  :)

One could say "innuendos in bad taste"  :-\

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Re: Who makes these line-up changes
« Reply #8 on: Sat, 2011-06-25, 17:03:59 »
I must admit, his reactions puzzles me.  :-\
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Re: Who makes these line-up changes
« Reply #9 on: Thu, 2011-06-30, 21:43:05 »
actually, can't see the fun in this one.... :o
I guess I have another kind of humor..... Paul,  see/hear you on the 19th of November!  ;) *horns*

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Re: Who makes these line-up changes
« Reply #10 on: Sat, 2011-10-01, 18:52:10 »
He's rather basing this on the idea that I decide the line up changes.... Mistake number one...;)
Terrible rhythm in the verse as well...

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Re: Who makes these line-up changes
« Reply #11 on: Fri, 2011-11-11, 05:50:41 »
Who makes these line-up changes
Who kicks people from the band
When royalties is all that you believe  ;D ;D ;D

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Re: Who makes these line-up changes
« Reply #12 on: Fri, 2011-11-11, 10:01:04 »
Hi Andy, do you also have something constructive to say?
I find these posts of you very untasteful.
I also think it's not a very professional thing to do for a musician like yourself. You don't win extra fans by doing that, you know.

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Re: Who makes these line-up changes
« Reply #13 on: Fri, 2011-11-11, 14:10:38 »
When people write stupid stuff like that, they should be excluded. I think that Cap should have excluded Andy already after the first post of this type.

On the other hand, I consider that exclusions should be temporary, a year, or two, cuz people can realise that they did something stupid, repent, and wish to be part of the forum again, and this should then be possible.

Cap is simply too nice. I wouldnt let anything like this pass  >:(

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Re: Who makes these line-up changes
« Reply #14 on: Fri, 2011-11-11, 16:59:31 »
The hints Andy is giving show several things:
   * he knows something
   * he seems to be angry about that something
   * what he knows is insider music business stuff
   * it has something to do with Clive and/or ARENA
   * he doesn't want to state direct criticism

Keep it coming Andy, but get out of the kindergarten chair, please. If you do this simply because you need attention, get on a stage and perform...

Clive has already replied in this thread and didn't seem to be too upset, so I won't be, either. I will still take the freedom to **** out curse words.
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Re: Who makes these line-up changes
« Reply #15 on: Fri, 2011-11-11, 20:12:51 »
Come on, he doesn't know any more than you and I. He's referring to Paul Manzi coming in the band and Rob leaving.

If you'd ask me, the hints Andy is giving shows only one thing: immaturity.
Just because he had John Mitchell singing in his band doesn't give him the right to say these kind of things in front of Arena fans.
What Clive thinks of it doesn't add to or diminish the fact that it's inapropriate on a forum like this.

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Re: Who makes these line-up changes
« Reply #16 on: Fri, 2011-11-11, 20:59:58 »
Is it so important, PH ?

And to Nicky : Andi didn't insult anybody, I don't see any reason for a banishment. And one or two years ?  Come on, we are not in North Korea  :P

There is a new album and a tour going on, maybe new people are visiting the Room, let's show that we can be tolerant. As PH wrote, Andi is not giving himself any good publicity with this thread and that is punishing enough.

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Re: Who makes these line-up changes
« Reply #17 on: Fri, 2011-11-11, 21:41:17 »
Is it so important, PH ?

And to Nicky : Andi didn't insult anybody, I don't see any reason for a banishment. And one or two years ?  Come on, we are not in North Korea  :P

There is a new album and a tour going on, maybe new people are visiting the Room, let's show that we can be tolerant. As PH wrote, Andi is not giving himself any good publicity with this thread and that is punishing enough.

I agree with you Bupie. ;) A ban is not really necessary.
But, I don't believe in 'tolerance above all'. I think he is insulting the band and the fans of the band. Especially since he hasn't nuanced his posts yet and he didn't give an explanation either.

On other forums they would call this guy a troll.

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Re: Who makes these line-up changes
« Reply #18 on: Sat, 2011-11-12, 10:19:23 »
I'll give you a hint. This is a link to Andrew Mcdermott's latest interview.
http://www.headbanger.ru/interviews/229?lng=en
In case you don't know, he was the singer of Threshold and he spent some good ten years of his life singing for them. He basically brought the band to success. He passed away this summer.
In this interview he revealed his real reasons of leaving the band.

Why would anyone discover "musical differences" after nearly a decade of working with the band???

So next time someone casually leaves the band after spending a few decades of his life in it, and the reason given will be "musical differences", don't be fooled.

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Re: Who makes these line-up changes
« Reply #19 on: Sat, 2011-11-12, 11:55:54 »
d.

Why would anyone discover "musical differences" after nearly a decade of working with the band???



Good question really with a chance of being valid, but here's another valid question;

Why would any couple divorce after being married for a some good ten years of their life?

Some things change, not necessarily on purpose.
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Re: Who makes these line-up changes
« Reply #20 on: Sat, 2011-11-12, 13:36:55 »
Come on, he doesn't know any more than you and I. He's referring to Paul Manzi coming in the band and Rob leaving.

If you'd ask me, the hints Andy is giving shows only one thing: immaturity.
Just because he had John Mitchell singing in his band doesn't give him the right to say these kind of things in front of Arena fans.
What Clive thinks of it doesn't add to or diminish the fact that it's inapropriate on a forum like this.

On other forums they would call this guy a troll.

I agree fully  :)

And I would add: Andy is not only immature, but he is importing what we are struggling to avoid in the Room: the nasty tone  :(

So a bit of life in the cold would probably reform this young rascal  ;)


And to Nicky : Andy didn't insult anybody

Bupie, is the French wine too enchanting ?

What is this:

That's Clive who doesn't pay anything

And he ***** at singing that

Who kicks people from the band
When royalties is all that you believe

Dunno what the  ***** covers over, but it's probably not complimentary.

Fortunately we don't often need to discipline people in the Room, but this does it for me !

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Re: Who makes these line-up changes
« Reply #21 on: Sat, 2011-11-12, 14:49:56 »
So, basically Mac left Threshold because in the end he felt betrayed by Karl... and he didn't do it earlier because he was a nice guy and believed the lies....

But, Andy, do you want to tell us that Rob and Ian left ARENA for a similar reason? And that Clive is the person to blame for it?

Then now is the time to prove it - or stop it.
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Re: Who makes these line-up changes
« Reply #22 on: Sat, 2011-11-12, 15:32:51 »
I'll give you a hint. This is a link to Andrew Mcdermott's latest interview.
http://www.headbanger.ru/interviews/229?lng=en
In case you don't know, he was the singer of Threshold and he spent some good ten years of his life singing for them. He basically brought the band to success. He passed away this summer.
In this interview he revealed his real reasons of leaving the band.

Why would anyone discover "musical differences" after nearly a decade of working with the band???

So next time someone casually leaves the band after spending a few decades of his life in it, and the reason given will be "musical differences", don't be fooled.

So basically you're saying that Rob Sowden was kicked out of Arena or left the band because he was no longer wanted or anything. And since you were talking about royalties, you suggest that Clive gets all the money and noone else gets any profit.

That's quite an accusation to make.

What exactly is your aim? You want to spread rumours? Obviously you know more than any of us?

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Re: Who makes these line-up changes
« Reply #23 on: Fri, 2011-11-18, 13:09:37 »
What is the use, or rather uselessness of this discussion ? If you're having problems with the way Arena handles its "human resources" policy, then ask Clive after this saturday's concert !  :o
Personally I think the new singer is great as well as base player John, why would you worry about the leaving musiciens ?
They all all may have their reasons, who are we to judge !

Anyway, I'll be there tomorrow and will just enjoy, like most of us ! In other words cut the crap ! >:(

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Re: Who makes these line-up changes
« Reply #24 on: Fri, 2011-11-18, 20:58:06 »

Anyway, I'll be there tomorrow and will just enjoy, like most of us ! In other words cut the crap ! >:(

True Spoken! Rene see ya 2-morrow  8)